Psychics and Missing People

[staragent]

SafeCalls

This is only a preliminary list, we are waiting for L.E. to put their two cents in as well!! Sorry I forgot it in my last reply!

SafeCalls

1.Establish a Contact Person, the more the better. This could be a friend, a neighbor, a relative, anyone that you are able to call 24/7 if need be.

2. The contact person needs to have someone in your family they can get in touch with, names and phone numbers in case of an emergency.

3. Always call your contact person when you will be going somewhere late at nite, regardless of where it is.

4. When you break routine, call your contact person. IE: You wake up in the middle of the nite coughing your guts out and have no cough medicine, so you take a ride to the store to get some....CALL SOMEONE to let them know.

5. When driving in an unfamiliar area, be on the phone with your contact person.

6. If you typically go the same route to work, school, or out somewhere, and you must change your route due to an accident, road blockage, construction, detour, etc., Call your CONTACT person so if something happens to you, we know your last whereabouts!

7. Call your CONTACT person even if you have a "weird" feeling, its better to be safe than sorry...

I will be adding more to this and please, anyone else feel free to chime in, I am going to print all these up nicely with publisher in a flyer or something so that it can be given out!

Thanks,
Ginger

 

[Luke T.]

I am actually an investigator for ChildWatch and we have already apprehended two sexual predators off of our website and we are working on a 3rd

Now THAT is impressive! Wow!

I'm the father of four children. I'd give you a medal if I could.

 

[Luke T.]

In other news, I was contacted by a reporter for People Magazine and had a preliminary interview, which has been submitted to go up the food chain there. Now, before you get all excited, the topic of discussion is the emotional effects of having a missing loved one. There is no guarantee at this point in the process of it ever making the magazine. It's in the beginning processes.

If it happens, it will be the first time in my life I have bought a People magazine.

Howver, you will be pleased to know that I took the opportunity to educate her on our issues here, and I strongly suggested that she consider it for a future story. (I gave her the link to the series.)

Heh. People magazine slamming psychics. That would be almost in the "miracle" category considering their venue and that psychics are popular in Hollywood.

I hope it happens. I hope it happens. I hope it happens.

 

[Kelly]

Hello Ginger,

Thank you for posting the link to this thread on your forum. It might be better, however, to post the link to the beginning of the series on psychics instead. This thread is for discussion pertaining to that series and obtaining help in dealing with the issue. It is not a discussion thread about missing persons as a cause or safety issues.

At this time, we do not post links on our site to forums. We post resources for nonprofits, with one exception, which is The Charley Project. The nonprofits we will post as a resource are ones with which we have established a strong relationship, wherein we fully trust in the services they may provide to families we refer. In Florida, we refer to KlaasKids. The Search Center is based there.

Please do not ask me to post a link to Child Watch. I understand they are under investigation. Whether they are guilty of any wrongdoing whatsoever is not for us to decide nor discuss. http://www.wftv.com/news/6791362/detail.html Again, we only refer to trusted organizations.

We can however, agree that psychics have no place in a fruitful missing person's search. I'm glad your forum does not invite them or validate them.

Best wishes to you in your work for the missing. We do have Jennifer posted on our main website and our forum. May she return home safe, and very soon.

Kelly

 

[Kelly]

If it happens, it will be the first time in my life I have bought a People magazine.



Heh. People magazine slamming psychics. That would be almost in the "miracle" category considering their venue and that psychics are popular in Hollywood.

I hope it happens. I hope it happens. I hope it happens.

I do too, but I have my doubts. After we had the dicussion, and I sent her the link, we conversed a few more times via email. I asked twice what she thought about the series and our conversation, and she did not respond to that at all. Hollywood=woo

I will be very happy, of course, if some of our families can be featured in there. The ones she forwarded to the editor are families who have never had much press, and one NEVER.

 

[staragent]

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Kelly,

I do apologize for posting in the wrong places and whatnot. I never meant to cause any problems.

ChildWatch is NOT under investigation and as you know there are always two sides to every story and it is a discussion does not belong on here or our forum either.

I am deeply sorry for stepping on anyone's toes and thank you for your valuable information.

Feel free to edit my posts to make them appropriate according to forum rules and I thank you for the explanation.

Sincerely,

Ginger

 

[Kelly]

Kelly,

I do apologize for posting in the wrong places and whatnot. I never meant to cause any problems.

ChildWatch is NOT under investigation and as you know there are always two sides to every story and it is a discussion does not belong on here or our forum either.

I am deeply sorry for stepping on anyone's toes and thank you for your valuable information.

Feel free to edit my posts to make them appropriate according to forum rules and I thank you for the explanation.

Sincerely,

Ginger

Perhaps better wording would have been "under scrutiny". I apologize for that. The two sides to every story could also apply to the other forum you mentioned. I am not enamored of them for hosting psychics, but I know nothing of their other activities, nor do I have time to research them.

I do know that there were public disputes about Jennifer's sites. I feel very bad for the family, as they do not need that at this difficult time. The focus should be on Jennifer, period.

Like most threads on forums, there are occasion "derailments". That's expected. I don't feel you stepped on anyone's toes.

You may want to consider posting your safety information on the Community Forum. There have been some productive self-defense threads on there.

Even when the series is done, my hope is that families of the missing and related orgs will seek help here if they want to gain knowledge about the truth as it pertains to psychics and missing people.

Kelly

 

[delphi_ote]

Kelly,

I do apologize for posting in the wrong places and whatnot. I never meant to cause any problems.

ChildWatch is NOT under investigation and as you know there are always two sides to every story and it is a discussion does not belong on here or our forum either.

I am deeply sorry for stepping on anyone's toes and thank you for your valuable information.

Feel free to edit my posts to make them appropriate according to forum rules and I thank you for the explanation.

Sincerely,

Ginger

To clairfy a bit more, since you seem confused. You're posting on the James Randi Education Foundation forum in a thread started by KellyJ about psychics and missing people. KellyJ isn't a moderator here. She's not speaking officially on behalf of the JREF or even the JREF forum. She's just a member of the rabble like the rest of us (she just happens to be 90% cooler than the rest of us.)

KellyJ's blog is a different thing, and it's over here. She told us all about it here in this thread, and many posters here have contributed. It's an amazing bit of work.

I hope that clarifies things a bit more. Don't worry about an initial derail. It helps us to learn who you are and what you're passionate about. Threads have seen far worse derails on this forum.

Just try to stay on topic in this thread. Some amazing things have been accomplished so far by the posters here.

It's true.

 

[Roadtoad]

Staragent, with your permission, I'd like to link to your site on my blog. I've done it for Kelly, and hopefully, it'll help you. (Hey, if both of the folks who read my blog can help, great.)

 

[meg]

Well, I'll be darned. I've been invited back to the flfiesta forum. She made my topic its own forum: http://flfiesta.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=44 It's not in the "Psychics" area, though. It's off the main page.

What do you folks think? Should I bother returning? Is it worth the effort? Or is this a last ditch effort from the forum owner to get someone besides "psychics" to talk about stuff?

Meg

 

[Luke T.]

Well, I'll be darned. I've been invited back to the flfiesta forum. She made my topic its own forum: http://flfiesta.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=44 It's not in the "Psychics" area, though. It's off the main page.

What do you folks think? Should I bother returning? Is it worth the effort? Or is this a last ditch effort from the forum owner to get someone besides "psychics" to talk about stuff?

Meg

Keep going. I read the topic and just might join in.

Okay, folks, here's a quote from a supposed psychic on that site. Remember what I said about a bag of hammers?

I'm speaking on behalf of all the real psychic, your post is offensive. WE ARE REAL psychic. I know you may have come across others who prayed on people. However, we have know need to and I'm a mother a wife and college student in CRIMINAL JUSTICE, an honor student to.

More:

thinker I have helped people find loss items, i have described people to other people and their jobs and jobs they will have and it has happened. I have gave them readings on their health problems. I don't got to proove it to you.

Oy.

 

[Luke T.]

You are aware their are parts of the brain the average human don't use, those parts also have senses, did you know that?
Albert Eistens part of his brain was larger than usual. Their has been psychic used in a government activities. I have watched true stories on television.

Aggghhhh!

 

[Luke T.]

I have watched true stories on television.

Heh.

Heh-heh-heh.

Ha! Ha! Ha!

MWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAGGGgggghhhhhh...

Ah-hee.

Whoooo

 

[Luke T.]

Okay, meg. I've joined the fray over there.

 

[Kelly]

Hello all,

Luke and Meg, you're doing a great job over there! It's too bad though she removed it from within the psychic forum. I hope it's still getting alot of reads, especially from the predators. I wonder if she saw what Ginger said about her here and if that prompted the invite back.

Luke, I'm glad you said it first about the grammar issues. I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately, I think education isn't what it used to be. I recently met a college senior who was majoring in journalism/public relations, and I kid you not...she did not know the difference between quit, quiet, and quite.

In a general note to all readers here, I want to tell you that all missing person's organizations are not created equal. This is not saying anything about the one Ginger affiliates her forum with, but is something you should know if you're going to reach out and help. If anyone has an interest in volunteering to help with a local organization, PM me, and I will let you know of a reputable org in your area if there is one.

Kelly

 

[meg]

Hi Kelly, Luke,

I know what you mean. I googled her email addy posted on another thread, and almost lost my coffee through my nose. She claims to have a degree in writing, and has self-published her works of poetry.

She's a piece of work, alright.

I wonder if her spirit guides can spell any better than she does?

Meg

 

[meg]

When psychics call in leads on a missing person case the leads should absolutely be followed, just like any other lead. There have been instances in ongoing cases where someone wanted to confess their crime against a victim, and the criminal called the police claiming to have psychic information about the crime.

Hi Kelly,

I grabbed that quote from Colleen Nick's post on voice4themissing. I am wondering if there is a way to find out more about that statement. Particularly, I would like to know more about when that happened and how. How many times, etc.

Do you know any more about that? Or could you point me toward who I might talk with to find out more?

I guess I keep coming around to the question, does that justify somehow pretending psychics are useful, on the off chance that a killer/criminal will call in a tip pretending to be a psychic? If the killer really wanted to call in a tip, could he not just pretend to be someone else? Or call it in anonymously?

Thanks
Meg

 

[Kelly]

Hi Kelly,

I grabbed that quote from Colleen Nick's post on voice4themissing. I am wondering if there is a way to find out more about that statement. Particularly, I would like to know more about when that happened and how. How many times, etc.

Do you know any more about that? Or could you point me toward who I might talk with to find out more?

I guess I keep coming around to the question, does that justify somehow pretending psychics are useful, on the off chance that a killer/criminal will call in a tip pretending to be a psychic? If the killer really wanted to call in a tip, could he not just pretend to be someone else? Or call it in anonymously?

Thanks
Meg

Hi Meg,

I will email Colleen this evening and ask if she knows more about this.

The only reason I can think in this case, to pretend to be a psychic, is because of the families who let them into their lives. I have heard that some murderers take strange pleasure in being close to their victims.

 

[Kelly]

Hi Kelly, Luke,

I know what you mean. I googled her email addy posted on another thread, and almost lost my coffee through my nose. She claims to have a degree in writing, and has self-published her works of poetry.

She's a piece of work, alright.

I wonder if her spirit guides can spell any better than she does?

Meg

Would you be allowed to ask if she can provide proof of this degree? If she cannot supply it, or refuses to do so, it could cause doubt in some fence sitters. Isn't there a saying that goes something like: "Dishonest in one thing, dishonest in all."

 

[meg]

Would you be allowed to ask if she can provide proof of this degree? If she cannot supply it, or refuses to do so, it could cause doubt in some fence sitters. Isn't there a saying that goes something like: "Dishonest in one thing, dishonest in all."

Well, she hasn't stated it on this forum. She just says it on her other websites, which I found on my own, not by her pointing me there...

I dunno. Considering many of the people over there don't spell much better, I'm wondering if they'd even understand what we were talking about. You know?

Meg