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Psychic Detectives are real

ChristineR said:
With that particular TV show, I would guess that they distorted the data. The detective in charge of the case refused to talk to them. Then they got one of the lesser detectives to say that they had circulated Rhea's sketch (which was copied from an eyewitness sketch). It all comes down to one quote: "without that sketch, I doubt if we would have been able to solve the case."

A comment like that is easy to invoke by leading questions and take out of context. "We had two sketches and we circulated them both. They we similar, but the psychic's actually looked more like the guy we arrested after the tipster contacted us."

"Do you think that the tipster called in because of the sketch?"

"Well, I don't know. We had the other sketch, and I don't know what the tipster knew."

"Is it fair to say you wouldn't have solved the case without Rhea's sketch."

"Yeah, I guess so."

"Could you phrase that as a statement."

"I guess that without that sketch we wouldn't have solved the case."

A little careful editing, and voila.
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Penn & Teller just have people lie... :)
 
Does this entire thread count as spamming? All polocolorado has done is post a very long advertisement for a crappy TV show.
 
polomontana said:
Baron Samedi,

The show was on Psychic Detectives last night. She talked to the police and the police didn't have a suspect. The police didn't even know the victim was dead. The psychic said she was dead, they were treating this as a runaway. The psychic then told them that she was killed by a friend from high school and she looked through her yearbook and pointed out the killer.

The lead detective was on the show and he vouched for the psychic.

The show is called Strange Obsession and a repeat will be on Court TV this weekend.
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Let's take it again:

Kathlyn Rhea lied about a case.

Regardless of how well you think psychics can do:

Do you still believe that Kathlyn Rhea is psychic? Yes or no.

It's a very simple question. You don't need to give lengthy explanations as to why. Just say either "yes" or "no".
 
polomontana said:
Baron Samedi,

The show was on Psychic Detectives last night. She talked to the police and the police didn't have a suspect. The police didn't even know the victim was dead. The psychic said she was dead, they were treating this as a runaway. The psychic then told them that she was killed by a friend from high school and she looked through her yearbook and pointed out the killer.

The lead detective was on the show and he vouched for the psychic.

The show is called Strange Obsession and a repeat will be on Court TV this weekend.
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http://skeptically.org/skepticism/id10.html
 
polomontana said:
Baron Samedi,

The show was on Psychic Detectives last night. She talked to the police and the police didn't have a suspect. The police didn't even know the victim was dead. The psychic said she was dead, they were treating this as a runaway. The psychic then told them that she was killed by a friend from high school and she looked through her yearbook and pointed out the killer.

The lead detective was on the show and he vouched for the psychic.

The show is called Strange Obsession and a repeat will be on Court TV this weekend.
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Let's try this again, this time with line breaks

Which case are you referring to exactly?
Who was the victim?
What year was the crime committed?
Who were the officers involved?
When did the psychic approach the police?

To add in:
Do you have any names of any actual people involved?
What city did the events take place in?

I just would like to know more details rather than "she" and "they".
 
polomontana said:
This post shows how the skeptic can be delusional:

1. The lead detective didn't refuse to talk to the show. He was on the TV show Psychic Detectives and he was the main detective vouching for Kay Rhea. The Chief of Police was also on the show.

2. The people who wrote the article tried to contact the detective but he was in Iraq. They then talked to his partner who is skeptical but still said, "without using the psychic, we probably would have never solved the case."

3. The the sketches were not similar, they showed both sketches on the show.

4. They didn't release both sketches, just the eyewitness sketch because the original detectives were very skeptical of psychics.

The police were skeptical, and set the sketch aside. Twelve years pass. In 2002, the unsolved case was given to Detectives Brandon Shoemaker and Gary Gass. - from the article

5. Twelve years later the cold case detectives released Kay Rheas sketch. If you would watch the show you would know that the first sketch wasn't any good and they set aside his sketch. The cold case detective then went to the Chief of Police and asked could he circulate the psychics sketch.

The detectives decide to publisize Kay's sketch, and two months later they get a break in the case. They recieved a tip about a man who used to live in Selma who matches Kay's sketch. - from the article

This is again a quote from the skeptical detective:

He went on to talk about the purpose of sketches, that they were used to "eliminate everyone else." Kay's sketch wasn't used like that, it was a direct hit.- from the article

Sorry Christine, your not entitled to make up facts.
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You're sooo closed-minded! Anyone who is not dogmatic could obviously see that this is the real way it happened! LOL!
 
Rodney said:
The newspaper article stands as the best evidence unless you have something to contradict it.
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Rodney, what you believe is no concern of mine. I don't accept newspaper articles that make incredible claims as any type of evidence. I see newspapers at the supermarket checkout every day that trumpet that the Queen of England runs a drug ring, that Elvis is alive and well, etc. You really ought to believe those things because they're in the newspaper. Also, a coke-addicted actor has claimed that he can get a medical degree in a month and I won't do the work to refute that either so IT MUST BE TRUE!!! :rolleyes:

Believe it. Don't bug me about it. I really don't care. Go away.
 
polomontana said:
Psychic detectives are real and so are psychics in general. Some of them do cold reading like Sylvia Browne and John Edwards but some of them are real and especially the ones on the T.V. show like Nancy Myers and Phil Jordon.

I think when you watch the TV show Psychic Detectives with that alone it doesn't leave any doubt that psychics are for real. These psychics don't just say there's someone in the family who's name begins with H. These psychics tell detectives what the victim is buried in, how they were killed and more. They even have composite drawings made of the criminal before the police even have a suspect.

To believe the skeptic, you would have to suspend all reason. You would have to believe that these ladies spent their whole lives preparing to fool these detectives. You have veteran detectives who are trained to be skeptical vouch for these psychics. You had one show where a psychic's composite drawing 10 years earlier helped to crack a cold case. They put the drawing on the news and they caught the criminal. She said he killed her because she was about to spill the beans. The guy confessed that he killed her because she threatened to tell his wife about their affair. I could go on and on with examples but I'm sure people have seen the shows.

It's well known that we survive death naturally it's just not widely accepted because people have a vested interest in death after death. We are energy in motion and our material bodies are in a state of decoherence. Death is the unraveling of decoherence. The material body dies but not their energy. Energy can't die because it can't be created or destroyed and that's the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. I will not bore you with the physics but life after death has been written about in peer reviewed journals.

I think psychic abilitity is something that occurs naturally and the only thing supernatural about it is we are yet to fully understand it. If you were to go back 2,000 years ago and clone a sheep many of the people of that time would call it a supernatural event.

Psychic ability could be related to the firing of synapse. A child is more aware than an adult and an adult is more self aware than a child. This is why a child see's things and it's easier for them to believe certain things. That's because they are more aware of there surroundings than adults and it could be tied to the firing of synapse. A child has 10 quadrillion synapses and it degrades with age to 1-5 quadrillion. Because of the uncertainty principle a percentage of adults synapses will not fully degrade and these people are more aware than the average adult while still being self aware. These people are psychic. I think this is just one avenue that can be explored.

I think people resist psychic ability because of the implications of life after death and this threatens ones belief system. So they call psychic ability something that's supernatural when it's something that occurs naturally.

I can go on and on but I will stop here. Again, life after death occurs naturally and it's known but not accepted because of people's belief systems. They are invested in death after death.
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Your a moron!

Brattus, please remember your Membership Agreement: attack the argument, not the person.
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I just have one question for Polomonta; Why? Why do you have the need to believe in these things? Can u at least answer this question on ur own, or do u need "illutionists" like TV shows and "psychics" 2 answer it 4 u?
 
polomontana said:
Baron Samedi,

The show was on Psychic Detectives last night. She talked to the police and the police didn't have a suspect. The police didn't even know the victim was dead. The psychic said she was dead, they were treating this as a runaway. The psychic then told them that she was killed by a friend from high school and she looked through her yearbook and pointed out the killer.

The lead detective was on the show and he vouched for the psychic.

The show is called Strange Obsession and a repeat will be on Court TV this weekend.
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[nitpick mode on]
Didn't you just say the show was called Psychic Detectives? How could the show be called Strange Obsession? Who is "she"? Who was the victim? Where did this happen? When did this happen? Links? Evidence?
[nitpick mode off]
 
polomontana said:
This post shows how the skeptic can be delusional:
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Nobody here thinks that someone who has been skeptical also cannot be delusional.

How come the detectives involved have not come forward with their amazing discovery of psychics? Why do they want to keep their discovery to themselves? Why would detectives not want to help others solve crimes? Why should we trust people who are so immoral?
 
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