Prostitution with 16

[DC]

I held them off and so should you.

I'll did my best

 

[Senex]

I'll did my best

And at the end of the day that is all we can really ask

 

[Cainkane1]

well im fine with 18 or even 21, but 16 strikes me as wrong.
on the other hand, i have to agree with George Carlin

me too. If I were in my 20's or 30's again and at a house of ill repute and I saw a 16 year old girl in the lineup I'd definitely pick an older woman .

After my divorce 25 years ago called up an escort service and a 18 year old girl came to the room. I couldn't do it. I was 38 and 18 was too young. I did talk to her though and and I told her I wished shed pick another profession.

 

[Mark6]

Why is it that prostitution is illegal (in almost all of the U.S.) but being paid to have sex in a pornographic movie isn't?

Because US laws which have to do with morality are in serious cognitive dissonance?

Seriously, it is not as simple as Alt+F4 makes it sound. In most US states making a porno movie is likely to run afouls of SOME law, which is why almost all American porn is made in California.

I have always wondered, would hiring a prostitute be legal if you give a friend $5 to film it?

I read about a brothel in Chicago which tried more ot less that. They would film the clients and charge them for "acting lessons". It did not stand up in court.

 

[Mark6]

Why is it that prostitution is illegal (in almost all of the U.S.) but being paid to have sex in a pornographic movie isn't?

Even worse cognitive dissonance -- in most US states it is entirely legal to have sex with a 17 year old (as long as no money changes hands ), but you can go to jail for taking a naked picture of her. Worse still, SHE can go to jail for taking a naked picture of herself and posting it on the web

(Which I admit is a colossaly stupid thing to do, but is already its own punishment!)

 

[Ron_Tomkins]

Should prostitution be legal? and when yes, from what age on?

In my country it is totally legal to work as a prostitute when you are 16 or older.

There are since a long time debates about that.

Prostitution is seen as a economic sector and from on 16 you don't have to go to school anymore and are allowed to work. this includes prostitution if you want.

what do you think? is 16 ok or should it be 18 or 21?



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I'm no expert here but legal ages of consent are completely decided by the society that enforces them so trying to raise an objective argument as to why it should not be 16 is useless.

 

[DC]

I'm no expert here but legal ages of consent are completely decided by the society that enforces them so trying to raise an objective argument as to why it should not be 16 is useless.

we can change the law. so it makes a lot sense to listen to arguments, be they objective or not.

 

[rustypouch]

No,it shouldn't be legal at all,what he nass is wrong with you people?

I thought we were supposed to be better than animals.

Should rape be legal? Why not? Gotta copulate right? We're just animals anyways.

Why not? You don't think women should be allowed to make their own decisions regarding what they do with their bodies? Can they not properly consent? Do they lack the ability or mental capacity to choose for themselves, and must have their lives regulated by People Who Know Best? If a woman want to have sex for money, who are you to judge her?

 

[Walter Wayne]

Legal sure. The age seems young to me. In the end any limit is going to be somewhat arbitrary; 16 seems a bit young to me though.

I read about a brothel in Chicago which tried more ot less that. They would film the clients and charge them for "acting lessons". It did not stand up in court.

Probably due to performance pressure.

 

[Mark6]

I don't have a personal problem with prostitution being legal, but it would have to be controlled more strictly than, say, massage parlors (ones with no happy endings, obviously). Namely, we'd have to go to lengths to make pimping as difficult as possible, perhaps making the only legal form of prostitution self-employment.

I really like Japanese approach: sex for money is legal, but ANY third-party involvement is not. No pimps, no "liaison agents", and no pressuring anyone into prostitution. If a Japanese woman has no money for rent and decides to place an online ad for sex services, she is within law. If her landlord suggests she place an online ad for sex services, the landlord is very much not within law.

 

[DC]

btw, Prostitution also is legal for men.

 

[DC]

I really like Japanese approach: sex for money is legal, but ANY third-party involvement is not. No pimps, no "liaison agents", and no pressuring anyone into prostitution. If a Japanese woman has no money for rent and decides to place an online ad for sex services, she is within law. If her landlord suggests she place an online ad for sex services, the landlord is very much not within law.

i see more risk when woman do that at home on their own, rather than organized at a neutral place, not her home.

 

[Hellbound]

I really like Japanese approach: sex for money is legal, but ANY third-party involvement is not. No pimps, no "liaison agents", and no pressuring anyone into prostitution. If a Japanese woman has no money for rent and decides to place an online ad for sex services, she is within law. If her landlord suggests she place an online ad for sex services, the landlord is very much not within law.

I dunno. If legitimized, then I don't see a problem with it assuming they Are afforded the same rights and protections as any other employee in any other business. Of course self-employment is fine, but if you look at it as a legitimate business then you're essentially denying anyone in that field the advantages that come with working as part of an organization: things like group insurance, access to better quality materials, larger advertising budget, and similar things.

It should definately be regulated, but the regulation would (if properly crafted) get rid of a lot of the abuses done by pimps now. As others have mentioned, the biggest issue now is that if the women are mistreated, they don't really have too many options to rectify the situation.

Now, imagine it legalized, with legitimate business enterprises. Why stay (or start) with some guy that takes all the money you make, treats you like crap, etc, when you can instead work for Happy Ho, Inc., with medical benefits, education benefits, company policies to prevent harassment, and a 401(k)?

 

[Senex]

Even worse cognitive dissonance -- in most US states it is entirely legal to have sex with a 17 year old (as long as no money changes hands ), but you can go to jail for taking a naked picture of her. Worse still, SHE can go to jail for taking a naked picture of herself and posting it on the web

(Let's start talking about the MILF's. They exploit me yet I don't care. )

 

[AvalonXQ]

Why stay (or start) with some guy that takes all the money you make, treats you like crap, etc, when you can instead work for Happy Ho, Inc., with medical benefits, education benefits, company policies to prevent harassment, and a 401(k)?

I'm sold. Who do I send my resume to?

 

[ponderingturtle]

I don't have a personal problem with prostitution being legal, but it would have to be controlled more strictly than, say, massage parlors (ones with no happy endings, obviously). Namely, we'd have to go to lengths to make pimping as difficult as possible, perhaps making the only legal form of prostitution self-employment. It would also be necessary to make sure the social security network is tight enough so that no one is forced to the field. Of course, that's necessary now, too.

This is different, usually you see a focus on brothels were regulations and safety concerns are more readily regulated.

 

[GrandMasterFox]

Should rape be legal? Why not? Gotta copulate right? We're just animals anyways.

You do realize that legalizing prostitution would actually reduce rape rates?
The fact of the matter is if an ilegal working girl (or boy) are raped, they can't call the police and can't report it.

btw, Prostitution also is legal for men.

Is it? I recall rather recently hearing something about a guy in Nevada who was not allowed to work in the business because it is only allowed for woman.

Now, imagine it legalized, with legitimate business enterprises. Why stay (or start) with some guy that takes all the money you make, treats you like crap, etc, when you can instead work for Happy Ho, Inc., with medical benefits, education benefits, company policies to prevent harassment, and a 401(k)?

Moreover, why should you as a client risk going to some shady guy when you have a legitimate operation to go to?

Not only would it reduce the working force for the pimps, but it would also take away a large some of their income.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Why is it that prostitution is illegal (in almost all of the U.S.) but being paid to have sex in a pornographic movie isn't?

Go look at the whole porn vs art thread, this got discussed to death there and is not relevant here.

 

[Mark6]

I dunno. If legitimized, then I don't see a problem with it assuming they Are afforded the same rights and protections as any other employee in any other business. Of course self-employment is fine, but if you look at it as a legitimate business then you're essentially denying anyone in that field the advantages that come with working as part of an organization: things like group insurance, access to better quality materials, larger advertising budget, and similar things.

You are right of course, and perhaps I went overboard with "really like" Japanese approach. It looks at the problem -- women abused by pimps, -- and takes a sledgehammer to it instead of a scalpel. A more nuanced approach such as one you describe would benefit women more if done right -- but is also vulnerable to corruption. Organized crime and human trafficking are much more likely to latch onto legal (and theoretically regulated) prostitution than onto self-employment only.

Also I may be wrong, but I suspect Japanese law is designed in part to discourage women from making prostitution a permanent career.

 

[Mark6]

btw, Prostitution also is legal for men.

Is it? I recall rather recently hearing something about a guy in Nevada who was not allowed to work in the business because it is only allowed for woman.

DC does not live in US. He may have been talking about his country (Switzerland?).

Also, IIRC the guy you are talking about was allowed to work, but quit because he was getting maybe one client a week.