Private militias are criminal gangs.

[leftysergeant]

Pathetic, as usual.

This country was formed by citizens who banded together under legal authority to resist tyranny, not by a bunch of nutbars hiding in the woods and playing macho games.

But nutbars acting outside the scope of the law have destroyed a lot of nations, such as Somalia and Germany.

 

[applecorped]

Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

They are outside the law already, in this state, just being a militia. (RCW 38.40.120)

except you seem to be the only person who believes this, including the legislature and judicial system of the state of washington

did you ever stop to think maybe its you who is wrong and not everyone around you?

did you ever stop to think maybe its this "im right and everyone else is wrong" attitude that leads to the types of things you blame militias for? because it allows you to justify things like arresting people for little other than being a gun owner and associating with other gun owners

 

[leftysergeant]

You've been busted in that lie, Lefty. And regardless of how you continue to lie about it, that home invasion was a robbery and not part of a militia operation.

Where do you think those dirtbags found each other? Do engage your brain before you type.

So you're advocating starting a militia.

I'm saying that we need to return to the original concept, older than this country, of the militia as a citizen's responsibility.

Does it concern you that there are at least a few irrational gun owners out there who think it's acceptable behavior to machine gun down militia people or drag them off to prison for doing nothing illegal? What do you think about people like that? Dangerous, yes?

Private militias are ALWAYS, without exception, a threat to human civilization. History proves it. Name oner country where private militias have worked to the benefit of society.

And what do you suppose the several thousand people in the gun club I belong to would do if someone like that jumped up and declared themselves in charge in an emergency?

That might depend on how many of them think that the militia the dirtbag represents is legal. I meet a lot of morons at gun shows who think that that shrieking lunatic Trochmann is a patriot.

Oh, and most people aren't as scared as you are. Just relax, Lefty. There are lots of reasonable, level headed, brave people out here, people who aren't pussies, who will be available to come to your rescue if those big bad scary militia people start to cause trouble.

The average person is too uninformed to realize that the militias are illegal. The government needs to emphasize this so that there are not vulnerable idiots around to get drawn off to the fringes like the WA Minutemen. The murders that they committed are a result of the law's not dealing harshly enopugh with the militia lunatics.

 

[jsfisher]

This country was formed by citizens who banded together under legal authority to resist tyranny

Really? Would that have been the legal authority of The Crown?

 

[GeeMack]

This country was formed by citizens who banded together under legal authority to resist tyranny, not by a bunch of nutbars hiding in the woods and playing macho games.

The legal authority was the tyrant they were resisting. So you're lying again. Bad habit with you, Lefty. On the off chance you ever do say anything true, people won't believe you.

The murders that they committed are a result of the law's not dealing harshly enopugh with the militia lunatics.

Uh, did I mention that you're a liar, Lefty. And it's getting old. On the off chance you ever do say anything rational, everyone will have stopped reading your bizarre, paranoid arguments from incredulity and ignorance.

And don't worry, like I said already, there are plenty of people out here who aren't pussies who will be there to protect you if those mean old scary militia kiddies come to git ya!

 

[Pardalis]

This country was formed by citizens who banded together under legal authority to resist tyranny, not by a bunch of nutbars hiding in the woods and playing macho games.

Says the guy who holds 10,000 rounds of ammo in his garage...

I'm saying that we need to return to the original concept, older than this country, of the militia as a citizen's responsibility.

These militias are probably saying the same thing. They are using the same justification you are using for holding those 10,000 rounds of ammo in your garage.

Did I mention that you said you are holding 10,000 rounds of ammo in your garage?

What is your rationale for having those (the 10,000 rounds of ammo in your garage)?

 

[leftysergeant]

What is your rationale for having those (the 10,000 rounds of ammo in your garage)?

I do a lot of recreational shooting to stay proficient and to work off stress. I also want to be prepared to bust a few caps if the illegal militias get froggy.

Militias are supposed to exist, under lawful authority to suppress insurrenction. The whackos in the woods are planning to start an insurrection if we don't stop electing liberals.

 

[Pardalis]

I do a lot of recreational shooting to stay proficient and to work off stress. I also want to be prepared to bust a few caps if the illegal militias get froggy.

Militias are supposed to exist, under lawful authority to suppress insurrenction. The whackos in the woods are planning to start an insurrection if we don't stop electing liberals.

So you basically pack weapons for the very same reasons they do.

And also, do you practice your recreational shooting in the woods?

 

[leftysergeant]

So you basically pack weapons for the very same reasons they do.

Not at all. I never offered to start a violent revolution while the Shrub was in power.

And also, do you practice your recreational shooting in the woods?

No. Over at the Sportsman's Range on Ft Lewis with the other soldiers and their families.

 

[GeeMack]

The whackos in the woods are planning to start an insurrection if we don't stop electing liberals.

Oh, so you are scared. It's okay, Lefty. Don't run and hide. Didn't you notice where I said there are a lot of us who aren't wimps who will be there to protect the wussies if any of those scary militia guys come for ya.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

I also want to be prepared to bust a few caps if the illegal militias get froggy.

isnt that what the militia groups you say are criminals say too?

as someone else pointed out, you are a one man militia, the only difference is you cant find anyone else to agree with you

 

[leftysergeant]

isnt that what the militia groups you say are criminals say too?

as someone else pointed out, you are a one man militia, the only difference is you cant find anyone else to agree with you

I am a soldier who is no longer required to make formations. I am still obligated to uphold the constitution. That might involve killing a few people who try to nulllify it.

 

[jsfisher]

...I am still obligated to uphold the constitution....

It is curious that comes with no obligation to actually understand what the Constitution says.

 

[leftysergeant]

It is curious that comes with no obligation to actually understand what the Constitution says.

You better read it, dude. The STATES and CONGRESS call out the militia, not trailer park trash like Trochmann.

 

[jsfisher]

You better read it, dude. The STATES and CONGRESS call out the militia, not trailer park trash like Trochmann.

And speaking of Congress, how is that evidence of yours coming along showing that private militias are illegal all across the US of A?

 

[leftysergeant]

And speaking of Congress, how is that evidence of yours coming along showing that private militias are illegal all across the US of A?

Any state that makes any mention of them at all forbids their formation. Some states do not address the issue because the most vile, disgusting, dangerous-to-humanity dung-eaters in the movement still hold a lot of political power there. They might hurt somebody if the states tried to put them in jail.

And NO law gives a piece of compost like Trochmann the right to call himself "commander" of anything beyond the end of his pudenda.

 

[jsfisher]

Any state that makes any mention of them at all forbids their formation.

But state laws wouldn't make it illegal at the federal level. So, is this your admission it is not illegal at the federal level?

For that matter, which states make private militias outright illegal. Please don't trot out your false claim about RCW 38.40.120 again; it has gotten very tired.

Some states do not address the issue because the most vile, disgusting, dangerous-to-humanity dung-eaters in the movement still hold a lot of political power there.

It is calm and rational rhetorical like this, free of gratuitous vitriol, that has earned you our respect for your persuasive arguments.

They might hurt somebody if the states tried to put them in jail.

And NO law gives a piece of compost like Trochmann the right to call himself "commander" of anything beyond the end of his pudenda.

No, but there wouldn't be, now would there? I believe there are a few clauses in the Constitution that might deal with it. Have you read much of it? The Constitution, that is. Yes, we all know of your obligation to defend it, but have you given it a full read through, not just a quick skim?

 

[leftysergeant]

No, but there wouldn't be, now would there? I believe there are a few clauses in the Constitution that might deal with it. Have you read much of it? The Constitution, that is. Yes, we all know of your obligation to defend it, but have you given it a full read through, not just a quick skim?

Yes. I have read it. Trochmann and similar wankers have no right to command anything beyond their own pudenda. Nothing gives them the right to command military formations. Those turds are not even qualified to command.

 

[jsfisher]

Yes. I have read it. Trochmann and similar wankers have no right to command anything beyond their own pudenda. Nothing gives them the right to command military formations. Those turds are not even qualified to command.

You say you have read it, yet you seem to have missed all those really good parts, oh, like the first ten amendments. You also say that they "have no right to command." On the other had, what forbids them from commanding military formations, as you call them? For that matter, what are the qualifications to command and who decides them?