• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Prince Andrew (Allegations of Famous People Engaged in Bad Sex Part 57)

anglolawyer said:
That a government like ours, shrouded in and obsessed with secrecy about even the most banal things, does not know how to lose a file is beyond absurd. Why can't he have taken the file home himself and put it in the trash? And why didn't the MP who gave him the file keep a copy? :confused:
Click to expand...

Apparently the raging homophobe Geoffrey Dickens did keep copies of all his crackpot "dossiers" (some of which were little than a sheet of A4 with details of gossip people had wrote to or rung him up with, often anonymously), but his widow apparently burned the lot when he died. This, of course, is another hole in what is really a classic conspiracy theory - "evidence" being lost while the person providing it was allowed to carry on with his crackpottery for years.
 
Last edited:
Captain_Swoop said:
It's a losing game though. Whoever is put forward someone will find something to object about. Unless the inquiry is run on the terms of the groups that represent the 'Survivors' and confirms all their accusations it will never take place.

If some kind of inquiry does happen it will be branded a 'Whitewash' even before it reports.
Click to expand...
That's how enquiries turn out to be whitewashes in the UK? They invariably represent only the views and interests of people claiming to be victims of the UK Government or Establishment? And they confirm all the accusations made by such people? News to me.
 
anglolawyer said:
Who better to regulate our sex laws than a collection of upper class Eton toffs brought up on rogering their fags after evensong?
Click to expand...
How many Old Etonians in the Thatcher's Cabinet around the time in question? Obviously not Thatcher, nor Brittan, for that matter. Tebbit - nope. Hesletine - nope. Howe - nope. Fowler - nope. Carrington - nope...
 
The Mail today

Lord Brittan's death sparked a fresh torrent of rumours about his private life and alleged failure to act against an establishment cover up of child abuse.
But the Tory peer's former Cabinet colleague Lord Deben this morning attacked those behind the claims.
He said: 'I do think that anybody who doesn’t have real evidence should recognise that it is a wicked thing to do to make allegations about anybody, even if you don’t like their politics.
'And one of the things that social media demands of us – and I use it a lot myself – is a sense of personal responsibility, and I do think that particularly politicians making innuendos and insinuations in order to make themselves look as if they know something when they don’t should shut up.
'If they do know something, they should come forward directly and give that information, but passing on innuendos is actually wrong. Ideally, they should put everything they know in a file and hand it over to us for safe keeping'


I may have made up the last sentence.
 
catsmate1 said:
16-21 young, 12-16 young, or younger?
Click to expand...

The ones I heard were about 15/16 year olds.

ETA: This was meant to be the reason his stay at the home office was shorter than expected and why he was shifted to the EU
 
Last edited:
Craig B said:
That's how enquiries turn out to be whitewashes in the UK? They invariably represent only the views and interests of people claiming to be victims of the UK Government or Establishment? And they confirm all the accusations made by such people? News to me.
Click to expand...

Well, look at the reactions to every inquiry ever.
 
FromBelgiumWithLove said:
It hasn't yet been mentioned that recently released documents show that Brittan, while Home Secretary, discussed banning sex toys in the UK with Margaret Thatcher. The Obscene Publications Act was to be used for this purpose.
Click to expand...

Was "Sex Toys in the UK with Margaret Thatcher" a publication? If so it sounds terribly obscene! :jaw-dropp
 
Darat said:
The ones I heard were about 15/16 year olds.
Click to expand...

It's funny how vague most of these news articles are. When I read "child sexual abuse" my gut reaction is to think it's about nine year olds not people in their mid-teens.
 
Arcade22 said:
It's funny how vague most of these news articles are. When I read "child sexual abuse" my gut reaction is to think it's about nine year olds not people in their mid-teens.
Click to expand...
Or at the very least having to defend yourself from a Doctor Who production manager with the script for Timelash.
 
Darat said:
The ones I heard were about 15/16 year olds.

ETA: This was meant to be the reason his stay at the home office was shorter than expected and why he was shifted to the EU
Click to expand...

There was a more serious allegation since your reply... someone claiming that they were 10.

I have no link nor idea of the credibility of this though
 
jimbob said:
There was a more serious allegation since your reply... someone claiming that they were 10.

I have no link nor idea of the credibility of this though
Click to expand...

While idly looking if anything new had surfaced in the way of further allegations against the now safely dead Leon Brittan (I can't find anything, just some rehashing of the same unverifiable claims that have been around for ages), I came across the following. It contains a scan of what appears to be an article from the Daily Express, 1983, which shows just how secret Dickens' "dossiers" were:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/246628664/Geoffrey-Dickens-MP-accuses-Buckingham-Palace-of-involvement-in-an-international-Child-Trafficking-ring

There's more on the general character and reliability of Dickens' "dossiers" at this link. I can't vouch for where that site comes from, but it certainly looks like it includes the reply sent to Dickens by Leon Brittan after receving the allegedly "lost dossier". There's also a nice timeline of Dickens' political career, and his numerous "dossiers".

Dickens apparently wasn't just big on hunting down paedophiles and homosexuals (pretty much the same thing), but also satanists and witches (pretty much the same thing yet again, probably).
 
FromBelgiumWithLove said:
While idly looking if anything new had surfaced in the way of further allegations against the now safely dead Leon Brittan (I can't find anything, just some rehashing of the same unverifiable claims that have been around for ages), I came across the following. It contains a scan of what appears to be an article from the Daily Express, 1983, which shows just how secret Dickens' "dossiers" were:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/246628664/Geoffrey-Dickens-MP-accuses-Buckingham-Palace-of-involvement-in-an-international-Child-Trafficking-ring

There's more on the general character and reliability of Dickens' "dossiers" at this link. I can't vouch for where that site comes from, but it certainly looks like it includes the reply sent to Dickens by Leon Brittan after receving the allegedly "lost dossier". There's also a nice timeline of Dickens' political career, and his numerous "dossiers".

Dickens apparently wasn't just big on hunting down paedophiles and homosexuals (pretty much the same thing), but also satanists and witches (pretty much the same thing yet again, probably).
Click to expand...

Blimey - a one million name petition too. That must have taken some effort in pre-Internet days.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom