Presidential Primaries 2012

Puppycow said:
Time for another update.

Romney: 45.1% +8.1%
Perry: 27.0% -8.8%
Palin: 7.4% +1.4%
Huntsman: 4.4% -3.1%
Paul: 2.9% unchanged
Bachmann: 2.0% -0.9%
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I totally missed a surprise uptick on Chris Christie:

Romney: 45.1% +8.1%
Perry: 27.0% -8.8%
Christie: 8.7% +7.3%
Palin: 7.4% +1.4%
Huntsman: 4.4% -3.1%
Paul: 2.9% unchanged
Bachmann: 2.0% -0.9%

That would put him in third place in the betting, although I'm sure it's just a temporary blip.
A Google News search shows that the rumor seems to be based on some comments by Mitch Daniels:

In a small gathering of online political reporters at the Heritage Foundation, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniel gave his stamp of approval to Gov. Chris Christie, who is now the focus of some conservatives’ efforts to get the New Jersey governor into the race. Daniels, who attended a forum with Christie on Thursday, said “ Chris and I are good buds” When I pressed as to whether he was the sort of bold leader the party and country needed, he answered, “ Chris is the best example that I can think of. He shares my view that too many of our colleagues are too timid.”
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According to this article, he is "seriously reconsidering" his decision not to run.
Christie has made it clear in the past he was not going to run in his own inimitable way: “Short of suicide, I don’t really know what I’d have to do to convince you people that I’m not running. I’m not running! I’ve said I don’t want to. I’m not going to. There is zero chance I will. I don’t feel like I’m ready to be president. I don’t want to run for president. I don’t have the fire in the belly to run for president. But, yet, everyone seems to think that I’ve left the door open a little bit.”
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The constantly recurring C. Christie boomlets are quite hilarious. Talk about not taking 'no' for an answer.... but then them's the throes of desperation.
 
More on the debate from conservatives:

Weekly Standard:

But no front-runner in a presidential field has ever, we imagine, had as weak a showing as Rick Perry. It was close to a disqualifying two hours for him.
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Marc Theissen:

You could almost hear the conservative universe cringe in unison.
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Apparently there was a straw poll in Florida:

Cain Wins Florida Straw Poll
September 24, 2011 6:02 P.M.
By Katrina Trinko

Every winner of Florida’s Presidency 5 straw poll has gone on to win the GOP nomination.

And if that tradition continues this year, Herman Cain will be the Republican nominee in 2012.

He overwhelmingly won the straw poll, nabbing 37 percent of the votes. That put Cain more than twenty percentage points ahead of Rick Perry (15 percent) and Mitt Romney (14 percent). Rick Santorum won 11 percent of the votes, while Ron Paul came in fifth at 10 percent. Newt Gingrich was backed by 8 percent. And Michele Bachmann, who won the Ames Straw Poll, finished dead last at 1.5 percent. Jon Huntsman beat her to come in seventh place with 2.3 percent of the vote.

For Perry, whose campaign very aggressively courted delegates — his campaign hosted a breakfast, sent out direct mail, telephoned delegates, and appointed a leadership commission lead by Florida House speaker Dean Cannon — the distant second-place finish has the potential to curtail the momentum he’s had as frontrunner since entering the race. Many of the straw poll delegates expressed frustration at his poor debate performance Thursday night, along with irritation at his immigration positions.
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Tylervo said:
Pretty safe to count out Palin now, right? Not because she's polling low, but because she polls lower the more the public gets to know her. The more she speaks, the higher her negatives go.
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I think that even among the very Right, it is universally known that Palin could not defeat Obama.

The Repubs' position at this time is 'anyone but Obama'.
 
Puppycow said:
Time for another update.

Romney: 45.1% +8.1%
Perry: 27.0% -8.8%
Palin: 7.4% +1.4%
Huntsman: 4.4% -3.1%
Paul: 2.9% unchanged
Bachmann: 2.0% -0.9%

As you can see, things are really moving Romney's way. Gail Collins writes about Perry’s Bad Night:
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Good for the GOP. Not only is Romney the only even marginally sane one, but he would not be a disaster if elected.
 
BenBurch said:
Good for the GOP. Not only is Romney the only even marginally sane one, but he would not be a disaster if elected.
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The problem with Romney winning is that the Boehner/Ryan dismantling of America plan will be fast-tracked unimpeded.
 
I think Perry's disastrous recent performance in the last debate may have woken the GOP up to his ineffectiveness.
 
Now this is quite something to see. C. Christie Fever hits ... well ... fever pitch. Politico is running a top-of-the-fold article detailing the challenges he faces in getting in this late. The news shows were all in this morning on how he is reconsidering, etc.

I'm still leaving him struck, because I don't think he's given enough of any kind of a hint to overcome the strength of his past, certain pronouncements that he will not.

What think y'all?
 
And, on the S. Palin front, here we are at the end of September, and her kabuki is still going strong on the political stage. When, oh, when does she take the final bow?
 
hgc said:
And, on the S. Palin front, here we are at the end of September, and her kabuki is still going strong on the political stage. When, oh, when does she take the final bow?
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IIRC, she once said that if she's going to announce it would be by the end of September.
 
hgc said:
Now this is quite something to see. C. Christie Fever hits ... well ... fever pitch. Politico is running a top-of-the-fold article detailing the challenges he faces in getting in this late. The news shows were all in this morning on how he is reconsidering, etc.

I'm still leaving him struck, because I don't think he's given enough of any kind of a hint to overcome the strength of his past, certain pronouncements that he will not.

What think y'all?
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I agree.

I said this on another thread, but I think the GOP is having a "the grass is greener" problem. The candidate they most want is "somebody else", but once that "somebody else" becomes a real person, we find all their political baggage. Even Huntsman only seems like a moderate and sane candidate by contrast. His economic plan by any reasonable stretch would be seen as pretty radical, but for this whacky field.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
IIRC, she once said that if she's going to announce it would be by the end of September.
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I thought I heard that too, but I can't remember where.

She sent out a fundraising letter 10 days ago saying that she was "on the verge" of making a decision. It's already October in my time zone. America still has half a day or so of September left I think.
 
I get the feeling that Republicans see Christie as the "anti-Obama".

He's Republican
He's White
He's overweight
He speaks bluntly and says what he thinks (A meme I'm not convinced is true)
He's not running (speaks to Joe's grass is greener comments)
Has no baggage (by which I mean, no one has looked yet)

In short, he's a big burly white guy who acts tough.
 
DavidJames said:
I get the feeling that Republicans see Christie as the "anti-Obama".

He's Republican
He's White
He's overweight
He speaks bluntly and says what he thinks (A meme I'm not convinced is true)
He's not running (speaks to Joe's grass is greener comments)
Has no baggage (by which I mean, no one has looked yet)

In short, he's a big burly white guy who acts tough.
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And he's not tied to that dirty machine politics out of Chicago. He's from New Jersey and...

Uh oh.
 
DavidJames said:
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In short, he's a big burly white guy who acts tough.
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I didn't want to trash him for his rotundity, and I won't. But, I noticed a shot of him on the tube the other night that had him walking somewhere without a jacket. He's a pear-shaped big boy, and he wears his trousers way up over his equator. I hate to say it, but he looks like funny ... like he's wearing a big barrel or something. I don't think Americans are going to be able to take him seriously when they see him in that costume.

ETA: Here's a pic http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...of_gop_field__and_president_obama__in_th.html
 
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DavidJames said:
Has no baggage (by which I mean, no one has looked yet)
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He's got some very nutty views on public education. Also, his state lost out on a boatload of federal education funding because of a clerical error. He fired his Education Commissioner over it.

The point where he said he never promised an error free administration will haunt him in any future campaign.
 
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