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I didn't put that up because you so-called skeptics would be instantly converted. You guys clearly live in a bubble and don't really know what the opposition thinks.
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Ironic statement of the year, 2016.

Given your track record of characterising the left in general, you are in no position of accusing them to being in a bubble and having no idea of how the opposition thinks. If you'd made any sort of effort at understanding opposing viewpoints, especially after countless attempts by numerous posters here to correct your misguided views, you might have some credibility when posting something like the above.

You don't. I've done my best to have a rational discussion with you but the only thing that comes up with you is how you making an argument would be pointless, effectively giving you an excuse to not make one, and desperately avoiding having to admit that you don't have one.
 
Trump has named Steve Bannon, a far-right publishing executive, as his top White House Strategist. Bannon led the Breitbart website, considered by many to be the alt-right's platform that has been widely condemned as racist, sexist and anti-Semitic.

A spokesman says House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi also has "deep concerns" about the appointment of conservative publisher Steve Bannon as a top White House adviser.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is asking Donald Trump to cut ties with campaign CEO Steve Bannon. Sanders says his office received "many, many" calls from people wanting Trump to ditch Bannon.

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Yahoo! News (November 17, 2016)
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Well, the "alt-radical left" is still slinging their racism and sexism slop. Talk about a one-trick pony. Time to write some new material crybabies, no one's drinking your swill.
 
Emily's Cat said:
I don't think it's as outnumbered as you think it is. I'm not even sure it is outnumbered. The two sides are, and have been for quite some time, fairly equal. There's a bit of shift from year to year, but that's mostly due to the very large number of people who sit very happily in the middle.

ETA: Who you callin' "you people"?!?!!
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:eye-poppi what do YOU mean 'you people'?
 
logger said:
Like Obama? That is hilarious!
The world hates us because of him and hillary. And the safe space is wanted because the left are pussies, proven over and over.

Yes Trump is ready to kick some ass, because many elites need an ass kicking and Jesus didn't come to unite, he came to call the faithful and to strike down his enemies with his two edged sword. ;)
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As usual, and just like Trump, you make wild assertions without ever backing them up. When your assertions are countered, you ignore and move on to the next one.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/24/7-charts-on-how-the-world-views-president-obama/
 
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logger said:
I'm going to watch you stumble through it instead. Its has to do with people who actually believe in our constitution, and as an aside. Did you see how he kicked out all the lobbyists? Of course you didn't. :rolleyes:
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I'll just assume that you weren't aware that Obama had already placed a ban on lobbyists lobbying after leaving gvt.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
Well, the "alt-radical left" is still slinging their racism and sexism slop. Talk about a one-trick pony. Time to write some new material crybabies, no one's drinking your swill.
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Actually, quite a few people are. Because it's clearly correct.

Again, this is not like 2008. I voted for Obama then, but I can accept that many people voted for McCain, and that's a thoughtful choice. That's about policy agreement, and I'm a liberal. McCain was clearly fit, and prepared to serve the country.

There was precisely one good candidate in 2016, and it was Hillary Clinton. If you voted for Trump, you voted for an unfit, unprepared, unthoughtful, scam-running, sex-abusing white nationalist.

Those are basic facts.
 
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CONFIRMED: Sheriff Clarke Vetted for Major Role in Trump White House

The New York Times is reporting that Trump may choose a prominent African-American to the role of Secretary of Homeland Security.

One person reportedly under consideration for the position is David Clarke Jr., the Milwaukee County sheriff who made a national name for himself after speaking at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland this summer.

Clarke, a staunch conservative and man who kicks a** and takes names when it comes to far-left rioters and radical Islamic terrorists.

The 60-year-old African-American law enforcement official reinforced his support for Trump by describing the protesters demonstrating against the president-elect “radical anarchists” Wednesday night.

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The Polictical Insider (November 16, 2016)
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Clarke would be an outstanding choice. If Trump is serious about restoring law and order to the country, he should give the nod to Clarke. A great American; a role model.

Twitter: @SheriffClarke
 

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Mumbles said:
Actually, quite a few people are. Because it's clearly correct.

Again, this is not like 2008. I voted for Obama then, but I can accept that many people voted for McCain, and that's a thoughtful choice. That's about policy agreement, and I'm a liberal. McCain was clearly fit, and prepared to serve the country.

There was precisely one good candidate in 2016, and it was Hillary Clinton. If you voted for Trump, you voted for an unfit, unprepared, unthoughtful, scam-running, sex-abusing white nationalist.

Those are basic facts.
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Pretty much this, although I'd say Sarah Palin made the McCain ticket unqualified. Romney is a better example.
 
Mumbles said:
There was precisely one good candidate in 2016, and it was Hillary Clinton. If you voted for Trump, you voted for an unfit, unprepared, unthoughtful, scam-running, sex-abusing white nationalist.

Those are basic facts.
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"Basic facts?"

Mere smoke of opinion from the "alt radical left", marching in lockstep toward obscurity.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
"Basic facts?"

Mere smoke of opinion from the "alt radical left", marching in lockstep toward obscurity.
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Seems you're spending altogether too much time watching Hannity.
As has been mentioned previously in this thread, the overall trend of the US people is towards progressive liberalism. It has been for over a century. That won't change and a Trump presidency that lives up to even some of his campaign promises will remind people, including republicans, why it shouldn't.

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Slings and Arrows said:
"Basic facts?"

Mere smoke of opinion from the "alt radical left", marching in lockstep toward obscurity.
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I mostly lurk around here rather than actively participate, but I'm going to step out from behind the curtain for a moment to say that I find it rather funny that the local Trump supporters are constantly repeating things like "marching in lockstep towards obscurity" or "losing every seat in Congress" when referring to the left, as if the fact that Trump won necessarily makes Trump (or his supporters) right.

The question is not "did Trump win?" or "is the Republican party in an overwhelming position of power?", and never has been.

The question is whether or not this is a good thing.

I have yet to see anyone, here or elsewhere, make any sort of coherent argument as to why it should be considered one. No one has even made an attempt. It's all just "Democrats suck, Trump won, now shut up".

Telling, I think.
 
Nonpareil said:
I mostly lurk around here rather than actively participate, but I'm going to step out from behind the curtain for a moment to say that I find it rather funny that the local Trump supporters are constantly repeating things like "marching in lockstep towards obscurity" or "losing every seat in Congress" when referring to the left, as if the fact that Trump won necessarily makes Trump (or his supporters) right.
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I don't think they understand the difference.
 
Nonpareil said:
I mostly lurk around here rather than actively participate, but I'm going to step out from behind the curtain for a moment to say that I find it rather funny that the local Trump supporters are constantly repeating things like "marching in lockstep towards obscurity" or "losing every seat in Congress" when referring to the left, as if the fact that Trump won necessarily makes Trump (or his supporters) right.

The question is not "did Trump win?" or "is the Republican party in an overwhelming position of power?", and never has been.

The question is whether or not this is a good thing.

I have yet to see anyone, here or elsewhere, make any sort of coherent argument as to why it should be considered one. No one has even made an attempt. It's all just "Democrats suck, Trump won, now shut up".

Telling, I think.
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Agreed. The fact that most posters' optimistic assumption that Trump would not be able to con sufficient numbers of Americans into voting for him turned out to be wrong does not seem to me to be something to gloat about. More something to be heartily ashamed of.
 
Pixel42 said:
Agreed. The fact that most posters' optimistic assumption that Trump would not be able to con sufficient numbers of Americans into voting for him turned out to be wrong does not seem to me to be something to gloat about. More something to be heartily ashamed of.
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In the interest of fairness, there has been a lot of idiocy on both sides of the aisle. Particularly since the election itself. Wild accusations leveled against Trump and his various potential cabinet members with no basis in fact, people conflating the statements of various pro-Trump advocacy groups with Trump himself, that sort of thing.

But when the only actual, factually-based pro-Trump information I can find is "he's not literally Hitler", it doesn't exactly paint him in a positive light. He himself has not, to my knowledge, yet come out in active support of internment camps, for example, despite a lot of panic about that.

And yet I still have yet to see anyone establish anything actively positive about him.
 
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Originally Posted by Emily's Cat:

I don't think it's as outnumbered as you think it is. I'm not even sure it is outnumbered. The two sides are, and have been for quite some time, fairly equal. There's a bit of shift from year to year, but that's mostly due to the very large number of people who sit very happily in the middle.
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Well put. Huge numbers of Democrats will only vote for the Democratic nominee, and Republicans for the Republican.

Again, I see it as a pendulum. If it swings too far conservative, we get to see the downside of conservatism and it paves the way for a more liberal President. Conversely, if it swings too far liberal, we get to see the downside of liberalism and it paves the way for a more conservative President. Ditto for the Supreme Court. If either side was unopposed, I think the downsides of one-party government would become apparent over time.

That said, I agree that with each swing the pendulum's "resting point" is just a tad more liberal. Which is either a real, desireable state or is setting the stage for a major reset one day. I'm not sure which.
 
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