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Anything to support that? Other than you being stuck on race.


Lol
You're in complete denial.
We have the vast majority of governorships and statehouses.
We have the presidency.
We have the congress.
We have the supreme court.
We will soon have the federal courts.
Four states are controlled by dem governors and Dem legislatures.

In every conceivable measure you're in the wilderness.
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Maybe you should trade one of those for colleges?
 
logger said:
Anything to support that? Other than you being stuck on race.
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There are two statements there. White births are in the minority. That's easy. You can find hundreds of articles on the topic. Your favorites will probably have American Flags in the masthead and start with "OMG! The end is nigh!" For less partisan versions, you could just go to the US Census site or read any of the articles on the topic.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/article85591172.html
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...rity-among-the-nations-infants-but-only-just/

The other statement is simpler to disprove (specifically, that not all white people abide by the conservative mantra). What color do you guess I am? I am, by popular euphemism, "white". I don't support the reactionary agenda. Case proved.

Tick tock. Tick tock. Tick tock. Your only hope is a holding action, several of which apply in the current election:
> Gerrymandering
> Oppress the minority vote with various rules now that the Supremes have said, "I zee nuzzing.... I see nuzzing."

But the writing's still on the wall... your time is over. Tick tock. Tick tock. Tick tock. Tick tock. Enjoy the spectacle, Nero.

Lol
You're in complete denial.
We have the vast majority of governorships and statehouses.
We have the presidency.
We have the congress.
We have the supreme court.
We will soon have the federal courts.
Four states are controlled by dem governors and Dem legislatures.

In every conceivable measure you're in the wilderness.
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Yeah, call me Daniel Boone. But damn, it's crowded out here in the wilderness. "We", when you want to count coup means Republicans. The actual "We" I'm concerned about is the anti-democratic reactionaries. The ones who would apply crooked solutions to staying in power and who would use that power to oppress people who don't look or think like yourselves. Witness our good friend Skeptic Tank who actually posited that this election is the start of a desirable end goal: To End Democracy.

Your vast majority is empty land. The "Most Republican" states: WY, MO, ID, UT, ND, SD, KS, OK, TN, AL, SC. Wooooo! 35.5 million people.
The "Most Democratic" states: CA, NY, IL, NJ, MA,... well, you can stop there. 87.2 million people.

But gorsh, Cletus. Lookit all those red states. We sure be winning.

Tick tock. Tick tock. Tick tock. Better fence off that bottom land and get some guns out there, 'cuz the brown hordes are a-coming. Tick tock. Tick tock.

(See how much better this is? Stick to sloganeering. Actual data isn't your long suit.)
 
Cain said:
Trump took to Twitter this morning to say the Electoral College is "actually genius" because it "puts the smaller states into play." It's not and it doesn't, but when have facts ever been a problem? He also says that if we did have a popular vote, he would've beaten Clinton by an even bigger margin and more easily. At least four years of this ****.
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I'm trying to picture what actually goes on when Trump tweets. Sometimes he's all by his lonesome - at least judging by the 3 a.m. eruption over Alicia Machado. But other people apparently correct his spelling, and he says if an office employee is around he will dictate the tweet. If he keeps doing it I wonder if anyone will vet his tweets or if he will just continue doing it on his own.

Emily's Cat said:
How is it irrelevant to the question? You asked if having an armed populace would make a difference in preventing a fascist president from coming to power in the US. YES, it would... BECAUSE.. the people who own the guns (the armed populace) are EXACTLY the people who are ideologically strongly opposed to tyrannical leaders and governments that overstep their bounds.
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In this scenario are you imagining the U.S. military supporting or opposing the fascist? Because if the military supports him or her, the armed populace would IMO be put down fairly quickly. If the military opposes him or her, it's going to have plenty of firepower without the help of the armed populace.

It also occurs to me that many criminals have guns and don't really pay much attention to ideology of any sort.[/derail]
 
Dumb All Over said:
Prolly not. But what the hell do I know?

ETA: No, I do not think she will end up with two million-plus more popular votes than Trump.
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We'll see. Yesterday morning (my time - Monday night in USA) she was at about +800,000 according to Cook Political. 24 hours later, she's at +1,150,000. Still a lot of paper to be counted, particularly in CA.

http://cookpolitical.com/story/10174

That site updates as counts come in. No one's working 'round the clock I take it, so they have their regular staff counting during a normal business day*. (The count will not effect the results so it's just business as usual, I reckon.) As it's 6 pm on the west coast right now, I expect a few more updates over the next 6 hours; at least that's what happened in the calendar day the past two days. I'm guessing she'll be up by about 1.3 to 1.4 mil by then.

(I'm anal retentive. I like following tallies of anything.)

*ETA: "In the states", that is. Cook Political is not counting... just reporting. They report what the states file by the end of the day.
 
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Foolmewunz said:
We'll see.
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Indeed.
Yesterday morning (my time - Monday night in USA) she was at about +800,000 according to Cook Political. 24 hours later, she's at +1,150,000. Still a lot of paper to be counted, particularly in CA.
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I'm seeing the 800,000 figure a lot at many other sites, as well. +1,150,000, not so much. But again, we won't know the final figures until probably after Thanksgiving.
 
Dumb All Over said:
Indeed.


I'm seeing the 800,000 figure a lot at many other sites, as well. +1,150,000, not so much. But again, we won't know the final figures until probably after Thanksgiving.
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I keep seeing three million. That is to say, Trump is up three million after you factor in all of the illegal immigrants who illegally voted for Crooked Hillary.
 
Garrison said:
He can simply say, as he actually appears to be doing, that there are provisions in the ACA that are useful and that Congress needs to present a plan to replace it not simply repeal it. In fact what he actually said during the campaign was that they would come up with a better plan, so he has plenty of wiggle room here, and for that matter it would hardly be the first time he's done a 180.
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Help me out here. Just what is the magical plan the GOP legislators have in mind?
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
Why do you think racism is the most important metric? They voted for a pussy grabbing serial sex offender who flat out lied to the public "all those women are lying" to save us from Hillary's Husband.

snip /many good points

If you don't like the results, Get Out The Vote!
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((Apologies if this has been brought up))

You seem to have left out "we should torture them and/or kill their families"
 
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