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ponderingturtle said:
They are in the white house in large part due to those who voted as you did. That doesn't bother you more than having an ambitious woman who did not divorce her cheating husband would bother you.
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Yes, I'm quite certain that the small percentage of people in Washington State who voted 3rd party made a big difference. :rolleyes: Yep, that small minority of 3rd party supporters, they're the real criminals here - grab your torch and pitchfork folks, it's time to verbally lynch anyone who didn't actively vote for Clinton! Give it a rest, already.
 
trustbutverify said:
You and I must have been watching two different campaigns. Trump's entire process was based on reactionary character assassination, with his supporters cheering every bumbling attack. And that's the guy you would have willingly voted for, had you lived in a swing state.
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If I ever interact directly with him, I'll give him the same piece of my mind I'm doling out here.
 
Emily's Cat said:
How is it irrelevant to the question? You asked if having an armed populace would make a difference in preventing a fascist president from coming to power in the US. YES, it would... BECAUSE.. the people who own the guns (the armed populace) are EXACTLY the people who are ideologically strongly opposed to tyrannical leaders and governments that overstep their bounds. It may not be the answer you WANT to get from me, but that is my answer and my reasoning. It's completely relevant to the answer I'm giving you, which is explicitly an answer to the question you asked
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Well, that's that's what the slogans say, anyway. I disagree... much of the armed populace are EXACTLY the people who would back a fascist regime, if it let them keep their guns and outlawed abortion. They'd enthusiastically support it.
 
Emily's Cat said:
How is it irrelevant to the question? You asked if having an armed populace would make a difference in preventing a fascist president from coming to power in the US. YES, it would... BECAUSE.. the people who own the guns (the armed populace) are EXACTLY the people who are ideologically strongly opposed to tyrannical leaders and governments that overstep their bounds.
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Cat, THINK. When I ask about the efficacy of an armed resistance against the government (i.e. the military), what does belief have to do with it?

FFS, this is the an answer that I already gave you... and which you previously insisted was me moving the goalposts! Make up your mind already!
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It's not my fault if you can't pick an answer and you keep getting back and forth.
 
Argumemnon said:
No, you're just very bad at this game you're playing.
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Who's playin games, it was just a bit of speculation.

This is just an admission that you have no argument, and no evidence. All you have is an uninformed ideology.
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Lol
I never made an argument. I never claimed to have evidence. Ideology didn't play into it. It was a simple post about illegals who may have voted. I happen to think hey voted in large numbers but it will take an investigation to uncover it.

Anything else super sleuth?
 
Emily's Cat said:
If I ever interact directly with him, I'll give him the same piece of my mind I'm doling out here.
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And then he'd publicly infer you're a shrill, resentful, menstruating female, followed by his political base making your life a living hell for the next year or so. But at least he put the "elites" in their place.
 
dudalb said:
I think the market is hoping that the saner heads in the GOP can talk Trump out of his more insane economic ideas.
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Heh. I had a tongue-in-cheek thought related to the DOW: After the initial shock, investors have decided to enjoy it while it lasts.
 
logger said:
Non white? Are you another racist from the left?


I can't, but the guy I voted for certainly can. ;)


Sure, just as many as you.


Life is precious to me, so it certainly would be great.
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So, no numbers to back up your assertions? I thought not. White births are in the minority now. And, surprise surprise, 100% of white people do not support your conservative mantra.

Two steps forward, one step back. It works. It keeps your buddies from shooting up too many schools, churches and abortion clinics. The overall trend of the country over its 2.5 centuries is still to liberal/progressive. The reactionaries win the occasional rollback.

I repeat... no figures to back up your assertions. Mine can be verified. But keep on keeping on. You believe. That's the most important thing. Newt and ConnieAnne actually told us that out loud. "It's not important what the facts are, it's what the people believe."
 
Dumb All Over said:
Do you believe that once the counting is complete, Hillary will have two million or more popular votes than Trump?
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Quite possibly. Are you saying she won't? By my count, and the votes are still coming in, she's now up by a million and some change. (Well, it's not my count but the count of Cook Political, who do a running count until all the votes are in.)

She's now heading towards Obama territory, but won't catch his totals. There were apparently more voters in this election than 2012. I don't think it'll catch up to or pass 2008 but that was an extraordinary turnout.
 
logger said:
Who's playin games, it was just a bit of speculation.
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I told you no one was fooled.

I never made an argument.
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Finally something we can agree on.

Ideology didn't play into it. It was a simple post about illegals who may have voted. I happen to think hey voted in large numbers but it will take an investigation to uncover it.
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Ideology didn't play into it but, with zero evidence, you think they voted in large numbers. That's ideology, logger.

Anything else super sleuth?
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Once again: a broom could've seen through your smoke and mirrors.
 
WAPO and Politico are reporting that the Trump Transistion Team is in chaos. No surprise there. And that some Republicans say you can cut the hatred of the "Establishment GOP" with a knife. The honeymoon might be short.
And, to no one surprise, Foreign Policy seems to be the breaking point.
 
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Foolmewunz said:
So, no numbers to back up your assertions? I thought not. White births are in the minority now. And, surprise surprise, 100% of white people do not support your conservative mantra.
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Anything to support that? Other than you being stuck on race.
Two steps forward, one step back. It works. It keeps your buddies from shooting up too many schools, churches and abortion clinics. The overall trend of the country over its 2.5 centuries is still to liberal/progressive. The reactionaries win the occasional rollback.
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Lol
You're in complete denial.
We have the vast majority of governorships and statehouses.
We have the presidency.
We have the congress.
We have the supreme court.
We will soon have the federal courts.
Four states are controlled by dem governors and Dem legislatures.

In every conceivable measure you're in the wilderness.
 
Argumemnon said:
And now you show that you don't know what "circular argument" means.
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Okay, maybe you're just good at confusion. You can't seem to follow a post so that a logical argument can be had. You seem to get into the same misunderstandings with poster after poster.
 
dudalb said:
WAPO and Politico are reporting that the Trump Transistion Team is in chaos. No surprise there. And that some Republicans say you can cut the hatred of the "Establishment GOP" with a knife. The honeymoon might be short.
And, to no one surprise, Foreign Policy seems to be the breaking point.
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WAPO and Politico would be your first two clues.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Quite possibly. Are you saying she won't? By my count, and the votes are still coming in, she's now up by a million and some change. (Well, it's not my count but the count of Cook Political, who do a running count until all the votes are in.)
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Prolly not. But what the hell do I know?

ETA: No, I do not think she will end up with two million-plus more popular votes than Trump.
 
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logger said:
Okay, maybe you're just good at confusion.
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Are you agreeing that you were wrong to use "circular argument"?

You can't seem to follow a post so that a logical argument can be had. You seem to get into the same misunderstandings with poster after poster.
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I can follow just fine. Cat keeps wobbling between two answers and doesn't understand why one of them is irrelevant. The fact that she brings it up constantly as a qualification of the other answer shows that the latter may not be what she claims it is.

WAPO and Politico would be your first two clues.
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Ad hominem. See, I know my fallacies.
 
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