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sunmaster14 said:
No, the answer is actually yes. That is, "could I?" Yes. "Will I?" No.
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Wallace Shawn in the Princess Bride makes more sense. Basically you're saying you know your comment is full of crap and is indefensible so you're going to just act superior. Pontificate from on high
 
acbytesla said:
Wallace Shawn in the Princess Bride makes more sense. Basically you're saying you know your comment is full of crap and is indefensible so you're going to just act superior. Pontificate from on high
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That's a serious projection problem you have there.
 
  • Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 9h9 hours ago
    "The ONLY bad thing about winning the Presidency is that I did not have the time to go through a long but winning trial on Trump U. Too bad!"
  • Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 9h9 hours ago
    "I settled the Trump University lawsuit for a small fraction of the potential award because as President I have to focus on our country."
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What's really mindboggling about this is, the people who sued him -- who were unhappy with his sham 'university' -- are basically the same kind of working-class and middle-class people whom Trump is supposed to be "championing," yet most don't seem to get it. The evidence that he's an insincere con artist seems to be right in front of their eyes but they cling to the belief that at last they have found themselves a trustworthy leader.

It's almost hard to believe. Like a nightmare from which you can't wake up. :(
 
Stop Being Trump’s Twitter Fool

Meanwhile, in the villainous golden lair he maintains in Trump Tower, Baby Donald laughed his best Dr. Evil laugh.*Got ‘em again, he thought.*Yesterday’s settlement of the Trump University lawsuit is the real news, but my Twitter incitement will dominate all else for at least 12 hours as people tweet, “How could he?”, “Oh, now he’s for safe spaces?” and “Don’t tell artists what to say or do!”
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/stop-being-trumps-twitter-fool-214470
 
newyorkguy said:
What's really mindboggling about this is, the people who sued him -- who were unhappy with his sham 'university' -- are basically the same kind of working-class and middle-class people whom Trump is supposed to be "championing," yet most don't seem to get it. The evidence that he's an insincere con artist seems to be right in front of their eyes but they cling to the belief that at last they have found themselves a trustworthy leader.

It's almost hard to believe. Like a nightmare from which you can't wake up. :(
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Is it that surprising? The media treats the likes of Jenny McCarthy as the equal of doctors who've spent their careers studying autism. 'Balance' seems to mean giving equal time to every crackpot theory out there. Add to that the endless attacks on climate science, and the rise of the idea that anyone belonging to the vaguely defined 'establishment' is lying and is it any wonder mere fact don't stand a chance against bold faced lies?
 
Emily's Cat said:
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In my opinion, "liberal" generally represents forward progress, change, disruption. But "conservative" isn't the opposite of that, most of the time. It's not about backward progress, it's about status quo.

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This would be all well and good if both were working from the same starting point. But they aren't.

Progressives are looking for progress from where we are now.

Most conservatives seem to be wishing for a status quo they imagine existed in around 1950.

It's part of the "Ozzie and Harriet" mythology. Women were homemakers ... except for a few odd ducks that were written off as pushy broads, or maybe even a little bit butch. The dark people knew their place. No one was whining about perfectly reasonable (:rolleyes:) separate but equal facilities. Gays weren't talked about in polite company, and if someone got caught at it they were appropriately blackballed and hopefully imprisoned. Or beaten to death, which was just fine, too.

People who didn't wear their religion on their sleeve at least managed to get to church on Sundays from time to time, or if not kept darn quiet about it.

"Bad" girls who got themselves in trouble (No one helped them get that way, of course. They managed it all by themselves.) were ostracized, as they should be. Unless their parents could afford a quiet, out-of-town/state/country vacation which just happened to come up suddenly. Then everything was okay.

Disagreeing with the status quo proved you were a pinko, or worse. (Remember, a certain Senator from Wisconsin was wildly popular among those status quo conservatives.)

Once our current conservatives can demonstrate that as a group they have moved beyond their imaginary memories of the status quo of three quarters of a century ago you may have a point. But unfortunately for that thesis they actually do appear to have been regressing over the last decade or so.
 
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Foolmewunz said:
We'll see. Yesterday morning (my time - Monday night in USA) she was at about +800,000 according to Cook Political. 24 hours later, she's at +1,150,000. Still a lot of paper to be counted, particularly in CA.

http://cookpolitical.com/story/10174

That site updates as counts come in. No one's working 'round the clock I take it, so they have their regular staff counting during a normal business day*. (The count will not effect the results so it's just business as usual, I reckon.) As it's 6 pm on the west coast right now, I expect a few more updates over the next 6 hours; at least that's what happened in the calendar day the past two days. I'm guessing she'll be up by about 1.3 to 1.4 mil by then.

(I'm anal retentive. I like following tallies of anything.)

*ETA: "In the states", that is. Cook Political is not counting... just reporting. They report what the states file by the end of the day.
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Cook Political has the actual tally now at Clinton +1,670,000. 48.0% to 46.7. Looks as though about 2/3 of California's early vote has now been counted. But it does NOT look that she will get to a 2.0 million margin as many predicted. (Pretty close, though.)

The other, more interesting factor is that overall turnout for an election that everyone's blaming on disinterest in the two foul candidates is UP. The final total may be close to +4.0 mil. Based on the estimated increase in population ( times the % that vote), that's a greater RoI than the population.

And voter suppression works. The leader... Mississippi, say no more. They invented suppression, I think. While no one's within striking distance of MS and their <8.5%, the next in line are: Ohio, followed by WI. (CA and UTAH both still show vote deficits of about 8% against 2012, but those are states where votes are still being counted. CA, for instance, was at a 22% deficit when I first started following the Cook Political tally. Utah has all those overseas Mormons and traditionally a huge absentee vote.)


ETA: I know this is the President Trump thread, but the discussions during the halcyon post-election days were all over the place, and the post I wanted to update was in THIS thread. Since our evil overlords the mods have put a halt to new threads in this sub-forum, I posted here.
 
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logger said:
This election should be your first clue.
Your second might be your side having zero, zilch and nada in the power category. You've been so defeated you can see the smoke in Washington from the front range. ;)
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Obama had a super majority when he started. Similar set up to republicans right now really... yhat definitely went over well.

Trump has a two year window to enact an agenda. There is no guarentee it will go so smoothly... and for that matter congress tends to be in flux every 2 years with mid terms.

I wouldnt predict anything yet
 
Fast Eddie B said:
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I posted three photos to Facebook. A liberal friend commented that maybe God was punishing North Carolina for their bathroom laws. There's plenty of meanness on both sides, but that was kind of like a slap in the face.
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Considering that both GA and NC are hotbeds of the kinds of televangelists that routinely predict God's wrath for anything they deem too liberal, and never fail to attribute any major misfortune to said wrath in retribution for tolerating gays, birth control, sex education, and whatever else they find fault with, I think it may be within the realm of possibility that the comment could have been somewhat ironic.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
Obama had a super majority when he started. Similar set up to republicans right now really... yhat definitely went over well.
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Then again, said 'super majority' only ever existed for 60 working days thanks to drawn out recounts and illnesses.

And added to that, there were at least two Democratic senators who basically had to be bribed into voting in favour of legislation such as the ACA.
 
quadraginta said:
Considering that both GA and NC are hotbeds of the kinds of televangelists that routinely predict God's wrath for anything they deem too liberal, and never fail to attribute any major misfortune to said wrath in retribution for tolerating gays, birth control, sex education, and whatever else they find fault with, I think it may be within the realm of possibility that the comment could have been somewhat ironic.
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I assume it was.

But still in poor taste and politicizing personal tragedy.

I'll agree that that kind of thinking is very common, and not just in the South. If one has the mindset "Everything happens for a reason", it leads directly to such blaming of natural tragedies on something totally unrelated.
 
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