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Cont: President Trump: Part 3

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Roger Ramjets said:
Not 'The people', but the people who voted for Trump. They voted for Trump because he was the only viable candidate, not because they were stupid.

The people who voted for Trump only had two real choices - vote for a Republican (Trump) or a Democrat (Clinton). Would a republican have voted for Hillary just because their own candidate wasn't as good as they wanted him to be? Of course not - that would be stupid. Stupid because any 'republican' who who voted for Hillary wasn't really a republican, and any 'democrat' who voted for Trump isn't really a democrat.

Perhaps you think that anyone who voted for Trump was an idiot, but what if it was the other way around? Would you have voted for the republican candidate (eg. Sarah Palin) if Trump was running as a Democrat? Would you have refused to vote if that would help the Republicans win? Of course not. You would have voted for Trump because Party comes first, and winning is all that matters!
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Anecdotal, of course, but I would have voted for Kasich over Clinton had Kasich been the Republican nominee.Or, at the very least, not voted for president at all. I am averse to family members of previous office holders holding positions of power.
 
Darat said:
Partisan reporting again, apparently his first name is Muhammed and as we know many terrorists use that name, plus his skin is a tad dark, plus he comes from some unpronounceable town like all these terrorists plus he can hardly speak English have you heard his accent? Not surprising he raised suspicions, can't be too careful with these foreigners!
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Heh, that's my neck of the woods - I could walk to that school from my house*, though it's not the closest one. Two of my kids learnt to swim there as they have their own pool.

A hotbed of radical Islamism it is not.

Mind you, the teacher is from Swansea and you know what those city types are like...:p

*Well, ok, I'd probably drive 'cos it's the other side of town but I could walk it - I could you know, I'm not that old / unfit / lazy!
 
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Ethan Thane Athen said:
Heh, that's my neck of the woods - I could walk to that school from my house*, though it's not the closest one. Two of my kids learnt to swim there as they have their own pool.

A hotbed of radical Islamism it is not.
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Check your kids, they may have been radicalised ;)
 
Ethan Thane Athen said:
Heh, that's my neck of the woods - I could walk to that school from my house*, though it's not the closest one. Two of my kids learnt to swim there as they have their own pool.

A hotbed of radical Islamism it is not.

Mind you, the teacher is from Swansea and you know what those city types are like...:p

*Well, ok, I'd probably drive 'cos it's the other side of town but I could walk it - I could you know, I'm not that old / unfit / lazy!
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It's practically a caliphate these days - even the government websites are in Arabic! But don't worry for the non-native speakers they have the site also in English: http://www.saiw.org.uk/welcome-to-wales-eng/
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Not sure how you are discounting the actual evidence, people as extremely narcissistic are not common. There are, however, people one encounters who suffer from personality disorders. They just aren't in such prominent positions as Trump.

Do you truly not see the difference between an egotist and seriously pathologic narcissism?
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Diagnoses based on partial information without a proper evaluation of the person done by a professional in a professional setting using the appropriate methods is nothing more than pushing a political agenda.

A licensed psychologist or psychiatrist would not make statements of this sort based on observations filtered through the media and second-hand information. They would also understand the HIPPA repercussions of doing so publicly.
 
uke2se said:
Acting like children for 8 years gave the GOP both houses of Congress and the White House, and will ensure a majority in the Supreme Court for a generation. If that's what it takes to win, Democrats will have to do it too.
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I don't believe it will help democrats win.

At a minimum, I think there are differences in principle and behavior between the two parties that would preclude this tactic from being effective for democrats and independents.
 
Darat said:
Partisan reporting again, apparently his first name is Muhammed and as we know many terrorists use that name, plus his skin is a tad dark, plus he comes from some unpronounceable town like all these terrorists plus he can hardly speak English have you heard his accent? Not surprising he raised suspicions, can't be too careful with these foreigners!
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I've always had my suspicions about thode who live West of Offa. They must be hiding all those vowels somewhere, but why?
 
Emily's Cat said:
A licensed psychologist or psychiatrist would not make statements of this sort based on observations filtered through the media and second-hand information. They would also understand the HIPPA repercussions of doing so publicly.
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If by that you mean "no repercussions whatsoever," you may have something there.

For the record, HIPAA regulations control the use and release of patient information. They don't prevent health care providers from talking about people who aren't their patients.

In other words, health care providers who have provided care to the current insane occupant of the White House, or have been privy to his health care records, would be covered by the restrictions of HIPAA. Everyone else is free to say whatever they want about him.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Not sure how you are discounting the actual evidence, people as extremely narcissistic are not common. There are, however, people one encounters who suffer from personality disorders. They just aren't in such prominent positions as Trump.

Do you truly not see the difference between an egotist and seriously pathologic narcissism?
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That's not even a meaningful question for the issue at hand. What is being promoted is for him to be forcefully removed from office because he is mentally ill.

Who is the psychologist that makes the diagnosis? What happens if another psychologist disagrees with the diagnosis? This is pretty major in significance and impact because we are talking about the President and not a backroom stock boy at Walmart.

Can there be conflicts of interest in the diagnosis? I think so. I say that because a professional psychologist who voted for Trump might be disinclined to think that he is mentally ill. Also the reverse could happen.

How do you ensure that your psychologists who examine Donald Trump do not have personal biases concerning his mental health?

What do you say to a certified and highly-regarded professional psychologist who says, "Trump is not mentally ill. Instead, he knows how to make America great again and he is on his way to doing it"?
 
People who aren't psychologists decide that he is mentally ill and boot him out of the White House. Then the Vice President takes over and proceeds with the exact same policies that the insane ex-President was doing.

Then Urban Americans (Liberal Democrats) say no this amendment to remove insane Presidents isn't working. What needs to happen is that the definition is changed so that Conservative Ideology is now regarded as a symptom of mental illness. We can't ever have a Conservative Republican President because those people are all mentally ill. They will ruin America and its international relationships.

And so forth.
 
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