President Ahmadinejad new ally of 9/11 Truthers

[bill smith]

I think it's brilliant: The Holocaust never happened, and 9/11 was an inside job.

Pretty much sums up how things really are (that is if you're sufficiently removed from reality)

You couldn't make this stuff up! Or the truthers responses. Made my day it did.

No The Iranian resident says that the Holocaust was a much smaller event than the official story states. He says that less than 300,000 were killed and not the six million that are traditionally clamed. So he does not deny the Holocaust. Indeed, nobody on Earth does. There is simply a dispute about the numbers. A matter for bean-counters and not debunkers evidenly. Even the Pope agrees.

And he is right about 9/11.

 

[Greediguts]

No The Iranian resident says that the Holocaust was a much smaller event than the official story states. He says that less than 300,000 were killed and not the six million that are traditionally clamed. So he does not deny the Holocaust. Indeed, nobody on Earth does. There is simply a dispute about the numbers. A matter for bean-counters and not debunkers evidenly. Even the Pope agrees.

And he is right about 9/11.

So he changed his mind since 2005 then? BBC story 2005

 

[bill smith]

So he changed his mind since 2005 then? BBC story 2005

It's pure propaganda from the BBC. For instance the President was quoting Khomeini from 10 years before when he mentioned the so-called 'wiped off the ,map' thing. And apart from that that's not what Khomeini said anyway. He said the name of Israel should be wiped from the page of time'

Which was 'accidentally' mistranslated by the Americans,Israelis and British.

 

[BCR]

Amazing...a truther defending Iamanutjob. Go figure.

 

[Scott Sommers]

It's pure propaganda from the BBC. For instance the President was quoting Khomeini from 10 years before when he mentioned the so-called 'wiped off the ,map' thing. And apart from that that's not what Khomeini said anyway. He said the name of Israel should be wiped from the page of time'

Which was 'accidentally' mistranslated by the Americans, Israelis and British.

Come on Bill, don't make us put you in the same camp as Red Ibis. Ahmadinejad said there was no Holocaust and he gets his info from Truthers. It's not clear what you really 'believe' or that Truthing is really that necessary for your 'beliefs', but it is clear that Truthers are moving closer and closer to tyrants and terrorists all over the world.

 

[angrysoba]

It's pure propaganda from the BBC. For instance the President was quoting Khomeini from 10 years before when he mentioned the so-called 'wiped off the ,map' thing. And apart from that that's not what Khomeini said anyway. He said the name of Israel should be wiped from the page of time'

Which was 'accidentally' mistranslated by the Americans,Israelis and British.

If that's the case then it was also, apparently, accidentally mistranslated by Iranian state media which also rendered it as "wiped from the map" in English.

And so what if it was once a remark made by Khomeini? Does it mean that when he quotes Khomeini that he doesn't agree with the statement?

Also, how do you translate, "Marg Bar Israel!" and does Ahmadinejad really say America is the great Satan, that the Holocaust was a myth and that there are no gays in Iran? If so, then scrambling to rescue Ahmadinejad may be a silly thing to do. He'll probably let you down in the future by saying the moon is made of cheese or some other nonsense.

 

[bill smith]

If that's the case then it was also, apparently, accidentally mistranslated by Iranian state media which also rendered it as "wiped from the map" in English.

And so what if it was once a remark made by Khomeini? Does it mean that when he quotes Khomeini that he doesn't agree with the statement?

Also, how do you translate, "Marg Bar Israel!" and does Ahmadinejad really say America is the great Satan, that the Holocaust was a myth and that there are no gays in Iran? If so, then scrambling to rescue Ahmadinejad may be a silly thing to do. He'll probably let you down in the future by saying the moon is made of cheese or some other nonsense.

Thank you for what is implied in the highlighted text . I wonder how many readers knew that ? You can be sure that the Americans,Israelis and British twist every word that comes out of the Iranian President's mouth in exactly the same way.

America IS the Great Satan from the Iranian, Iraqi,Afghani point of view and for a good few more all around the world too. Britain is just a minor demon hopping along on the tailcoats hoping for the crumbs that fall from the table.

Can you deny it?

 

[bill smith]

Come on Bill, don't make us put you in the same camp as Red Ibis. Ahmadinejad said there was no Holocaust and he gets his info from Truthers. It's not clear what you really 'believe' or that Truthing is really that necessary for your 'beliefs', but it is clear that Truthers are moving closer and closer to tyrants and terrorists all over the world.

Steady on Scott. We are simply followers of the methods of Gandhi and Martin Luther King as you can see from my signature and my regular quotes from the Great Gandhi.

For the rest I will defend anybody that is being framed like Ahmadinejad for instance. Right to the hilt.

 

[angrysoba]

America IS the Great Satan from the Iranian, Iraqi,Afghani point of view and for a good few more all around the world too. Britain is just a minor demon hopping along on the tailcoats hoping for the crumbs that fall from the table.

Can you deny it?

Deny that America is the Great Satan?

Sure I can deny it. I don't believe in supernatural forces.

And when you talk about Iranian perspectives you are of course speaking from the perspective of the theocracy that "governs" the country and kills "its own people" for demonstrating against it.

 

[bill smith]

Deny that America is the Great Satan?

Sure I can deny it. I don't believe in supernatural forces.

And when you talk about Iranian perspectives you are of course speaking from the perspective of the theocracy that "governs" the country and kills "its own people" for demonstrating against it.

Are you getting around to saying ' Operation Iranian Liberation ' ? Sure sounds like it

That's what they said about iraq for a short time. Operation Iraqi Liberation '

But nobody was fooled then and nobody is fooled now. You only have to read the intials. O.I.L. Haw haw haw..

 

[Scott Sommers]

Are you getting around to saying ' Operation Iranian Liberation ' ? Sure sounds like it

That's what they said about iraq for a short time. Operation Iraqi Liberation '

But nobody was fooled then and nobody is fooled now. You only have to read the intials. O.I.L. Haw haw haw..

And you're starting to sound a lot like the American Taliban. Everytime a dictator in an Islamic state says something, we should take it seriously. An American elected by popular vote and answerable to recall and impeachment says something and it's a false flag cover up. And you wonder why crazed nuts are shooting people with calls of 911 Truth on their lips.

Tyrants and terrorists, all friends of 911 Truth.

 

[angrysoba]

Are you getting around to saying ' Operation Iranian Liberation ' ? Sure sounds like it

That's what they said about iraq for a short time. Operation Iraqi Liberation '

But nobody was fooled then and nobody is fooled now. You only have to read the intials. O.I.L. Haw haw haw..

What's Operation Iranian Liberation?

I thought that's been talked about for the last four or five years and still hasn't happened.

Why are the NWO such foot draggers?

 

[bill smith]

And you're starting to sound a lot like the American Taliban. Everytime a dictator in an Islamic state says something, we should take it seriously. An American elected by popular vote and answerable to recall and impeachment says something and it's a false flag cover up. And you wonder why crazed nuts are shooting people with calls of 911 Truth on their lips.

Tyrants and terrorists, all friends of 911 Truth.

If a member of the Church of England shoots a guy in the Pentagon do you blame the C of E. It's absolutely no problem for us that a person who may have been a member of the TM did this. It's just one of those things. Even if there were ten mre like it it's no problem for us. There are millons of us. Maybe hundreds of millions. Statistically this is nothing.

It's just a social roblem like the other 50,000 shootings that take place every year in America.

Don't you agree Scott ?

 

[bill smith]

What's Operation Iranian Liberation?

I thought that's been talked about for the last four or five years and still hasn't happened.

Why are the NWO such foot draggers?

They don't want to frighten the horses you see. Heads are up and watching at the moment. Then the NWO lies down in the long grass and waits for the herd to lower their hads and start grazing again.. Then they rise and creep forward the stalk continues. Don't you just love it.lol

 

[angrysoba]

They don't want to frighten the horses you see. Heads are up and watching at the moment. Then the NWO lies down in the long grass and waits for the herd to lower their hads and start grazing again.. Then they rise and creep forward the stalk continues. Don't you just love it.lol

Clearly you do. LOL!!!1!

But how do you square that with your earlier claim that nobody is fooled by this?

 

[bill smith]

And you're starting to sound a lot like the American Taliban. Everytime a dictator in an Islamic state says something, we should take it seriously. An American elected by popular vote and answerable to recall and impeachment says something and it's a false flag cover up. And you wonder why crazed nuts are shooting people with calls of 911 Truth on their lips.

Tyrants and terrorists, all friends of 911 Truth.

OOOh Scott.'American Taliban '. That's getting close to the bone isn't it. lol. Talking of the 'popular vote' do you have any comment on the following with particular reference to it's implications for your American non-Dictatorship ?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

 

[Hans]

They don't want to frighten the horses you see. Heads are up and watching at the moment. Then the NWO lies down in the long grass and waits for the herd to lower their hads and start grazing again.. Then they rise and creep forward the stalk continues. Don't you just love it.lol

Wow well if the evil NWO wanted to take over the world just to do evil things to the people why did they collapse the Soviet Union? I guess they just weren't evil enough? I mean come on along with the Chinese they had a nice chunk of the world and population under their thumb - why undo it, why wasn't it good enough?

One always wonders just how smart these NWO planner are. Perhaps the three Stoogies were their strategic planners?

 

[bill smith]

Clearly you do. LOL!!!1!

But how do you square that with your earlier claim that nobody is fooled by this?

Remember Lincoln said.
'' You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time''

Well the NWO way is 'most of the people, most of the time ' They cannot completely stop critical thinkers like me nd others so they just put obstacles in our way to keep us from informing and essentially waking up the herd/public who ctually do not want their grazing disturbed '

The beauty is we have woken up millions of people. You read about ''false flags' and the like every day now. Ten years ago I had never even heard the expression.

There would have been more of them by now if we not started the clamour. Now it ay be self-sustaining. Trust in government is virtually gone. In this case with the gross corruption all around us that is a good thing.

 

[angrysoba]

The beauty is we have woken up millions of people. You read about ''false flags' and the like every day now. Ten years ago I had never even heard the expression.

Ten years ago I never expected to see so many grown men walking around with their trousers halfway down their backside showing off their underwear.

I see it all the time, now.

They're both very dumb.

 

[Scott Sommers]

OOOh Scott.'American Taliban '. That's getting close to the bone isn't it. lol. Talking of the 'popular vote' do you have any comment on the following with particular reference to it's implications for your American non-Dictatorship ?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs

So what was I supposed to see in that video? The fellow in the video is Tom Feeney and you must know there are - shall we say - irregularities in his accusations. From a source as simple as Wikipedia you can find,

Feeney's 2006 congressional opponent, Clint Curtis, has previously provided a sworn affidavit alleging that in October 2000, Feeney asked Curtis, then a computer programmer at Yang Enterprises, to design a computer program to falsify touch-screen voting results in Palm Beach County.Curtis subsequently passed a polygraph test commissioned by a Washington, D.C. private investigator. A Wired News story noted that Curtis had no direct knowledge of the vote counting software having been used in a public election. Feeney has claimed that he has no recollection of even meeting Curtis; that he could not have engaged in such a scheme because Palm Beach County did not even consider obtaining touch screen machines until after the 2000 election; and that although Curtis wrote a book in the summer of 2004 accusing Feeney of a wide variety of misconduct, Curtis did not mention the alleged scheme to commit vote fraud in the edition published prior to the 2004 election.

You read about ''false flags' and the like every day now. Ten years ago I had never even heard the expression.

Really? I never heard the term until I started posting here. But then I am a pseudo-intellectual wannabe, after all. So I Googled the term and what da' ya' know, almost all the top hits come from Truther sites. I suspect you think it's colloquial English because all your buddies are stuck in the same groove.