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Predict Trump's first revenge prosecutions!

The Don said:
Or they will find that they're actually OK with it after all.

That's what has happened in the past. However egregious Trump's actions appear to be, the Republican Party finds that they're an acceptable price for their other aims.
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We've seen plenty of that in history, and plenty more in the specific instance. It helps too, of course, when ideas are mangled and squeezed into bite size lumps. Drain the swamp, own the libs, make America great again, it doesn't even matter if it's real, if you can keep saying it is. The Bible is history and Currier and Ives printed photographs. And it doesn't really matter if it's true if you can convince people it is. I have a plan. You'll love it, and weep when I tell you why it failed. At least the trains run on time, right? Well, no, but the fault is undoubtedly with the libs and the wreckers and the deep state and the fertile brown hordes. It must be them, because the theory I just wrote down with my gold plated sharpie is perfect.

Ironic that one of Trump's favorite fables is about the snake who bites the optimistic rescuer. The snake grins as he chortles the warning too few get until it's too late. When they do, it will be to tell us they were in the resistance, really, just secretly. It's someone else's job, as it always is, to clean up the bricks in the streets.

Perhaps it's too simplistic to say we're ignorant of history when much of what we were taught was history just wasn't, but we keep on surprising ourselves with the obvious. Down the shining path we go again, hands on hearts as we drone the pledge and remembering something about eggshells in our omelettes.
 
Norman Alexander said:
It's what he wants, sure. He also wanted the Central Park Five hanged. That didn't happen, for good reasons. So his henchmen won't let him have the J6 Committee either. For a start, as mentioned above, they are way too smart enough to know that if the case is reopened, all the bad Trumpy J6 demons will come tumbling out into the light again. It could easily blow up in Trump's face. They need to protect him from himself.
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Yep, that's why I said it's what he wants. But your CP5 isn't a good comparison as he wasn't the POTUS or even a candidate when he took out that ad. He was just a NYC builder with no power to influence the NY courts.
None of the J6 committee will be prosecuted because they committed no crime, but you can bet the DOJ will be doing investigations anyway in hopes they can find something, anything to make Trump look like the victim of a witch hunt.
 
Stacyhs said:
Yep, that's why I said it's what he wants. But your CP5 isn't a good comparison as he wasn't the POTUS or even a candidate when he took out that ad. He was just a NYC builder with no power to influence the NY courts.
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Oh, he had influence at the time, sure. And he (well, his dad) had some NY judges fully bought. Incidentally, Trump thinks they should still be hanged, even now. That his judgement then was correct, despite evidence to the contrary. He just knows they were guilty. But that's a sidetrack.
Stacyhs said:
None of the J6 committee will be prosecuted because they committed no crime, but you can bet the DOJ will be doing investigations anyway in hopes they can find something, anything to make Trump look like the victim of a witch hunt.
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HUAC and McCarthy live on! It will end in abject failure, of course, but only after permanently hurting a lot of innocent people.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Oh, he had influence at the time, sure. And he (well, his dad) had some NY judges fully bought. Incidentally, Trump thinks they should still be hanged, even now. That his judgement then was correct, despite evidence to the contrary. He just knows they were guilty. But that's a sidetrack.

HUAC and McCarthy live on! It will end in abject failure, of course, but only after permanently hurting a lot of innocent people.
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You are making a claim as fact for which you provide no evidence. If he had influence, then the CP5 would not have been exonerated in 2002.

Of course, Trump still thinks they are guilty because he can never, ever admit being wrong.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Wrong thread?

Nobody has ever told him he is wrong. He's a spoiled brat.
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No. I was addressing the bolded sentences in your comment that I quoted:
"Oh, he had influence at the time, sure. And he (well, his dad) had some NY judges fully bought."

He's been told many times he's wrong, but he adopted mentor Roy Cohn's advice: Deflect and distract, never give in, never admit fault, lie and attack, lie and attack, publicity no matter what, win no matter what, all underpinned by a deep, prove-me-wrong belief in the power of chaos and fear.https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/19/roy-cohn-donald-trump-documentary-228144/
 
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Stacyhs said:
No. I was addressing the bolded sentences in your comment that I quoted:
"Oh, he had influence at the time, sure. And he (well, his dad) had some NY judges fully bought."

He's been told many times he's wrong, but he adopted mentor Roy Cohn's advice: Deflect and distract, never give in, never admit fault, lie and attack, lie and attack, publicity no matter what, win no matter what, all underpinned by a deep, prove-me-wrong belief in the power of chaos and fear.https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/19/roy-cohn-donald-trump-documentary-228144/
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Again, wrong thread for this.
 
No doubt part of the reasoning behind these threats is to make a loud shot-across-the-bow warning to anyone thinking of placing so much as a toe out of line in the years to come.
 
Stacyhs said:
I disagree. Ignoring a Congressional subpoena is a crime as Peter Navarro found out when he spent 4 months in prison for doing so. If any Dem ignores such a subpoena, you can be damn sure Trump's DOJ will prosecute. Trump wants revenge and you can bet his DOJ will be more than happy to help him get it.
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A supeona from a congressional commitee has the same force of law as a court supeona.
Of course once you show up you can dodge every tough question if you want to.
 
Armitage72 said:
Like the suggestion MTG just made that the new AG should look into murder charges for the Capitol Police officer who shot Ashli Babbitt.
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Good luck getting a jury to indict, let alone convict. And I suspect some of Trump;spolice allies will not be happy with this.

Hans said:
Plus if they do a public investigation all the information against the mango mussolini will come out again. I'm sure Liz will enjoy going over all the evidence - again.
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I think if it gets to actual hearings; it will not go well for the Republicans. which is why I think there will be lots of noise and threats but no real effort to follow them up.
 
dudalb said:
Good luck getting a jury to indict, let alone convict. And I suspect some of Trump;spolice allies will not be happy with this.



I think if it gets to actual hearings; it will not go well for the Republicans. which is why I think there will be lots of noise and threats but no real effort to follow them up.
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I'm not sure they're that bothered about how well the hearings go so long as they can have some soundbites that can be endlessly repeated in the right wing media space.

That way they can appear to be doing something without actually getting rid of the grievance that's driving support.

IMO it's all about the performance, not the result.
 
The Don said:
I'm not sure they're that bothered about how well the hearings go so long as they can have some soundbites that can be endlessly repeated in the right wing media space.

That way they can appear to be doing something without actually getting rid of the grievance that's driving support.

IMO it's all about the performance, not the result.
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I believe it was Tragic Monkey, in the thread about Trump's Cabinet picks, who said that Trump's not choosing a government, he's casting a TV reality show. That's of a piece with what you say here- none of this is about having a government that will actually do things for the people they represent, it's about maximizing the ratings they get from an audience. Some of the folks Trump is choosing to work with do have ideological convictions they want to enforce- hideous as those convictions may be, they are at least sincere. But the man at the top does not, IMO, have one single actual idea beyond the cheers he can coax from a fawning mob - this is the Presidency in the hands of the ultimate social media influencer. The people elected, and are going to get for at least the next four years, a government with all the depth of a Kylie Jenner show.
 
turingtest said:
I believe it was Tragic Monkey, in the thread about Trump's Cabinet picks, who said that Trump's not choosing a government, he's casting a TV reality show. That's of a piece with what you say here- none of this is about having a government that will actually do things for the people they represent, it's about maximizing the ratings they get from an audience. Some of the folks Trump is choosing to work with do have ideological convictions they want to enforce- hideous as those convictions may be, they are at least sincere. But the man at the top does not, IMO, have one single actual idea beyond the cheers he can coax from a fawning mob - this is the Presidency in the hands of the ultimate social media influencer. The people elected, and are going to get for at least the next four years, a government with all the depth of a Kylie Jenner show.
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All the USA's protagonist countries and outright enemies will already have assessed this as such. They will be planning much smarter already. I imagine they will fawn to Trump personally while picking America's pockets meanwhile. As is usual for him, Trump will leave all who associate with him much, MUCH poorer and highly regretful they ever heard his name. In this case, the whole of the USA.
 
Donald says

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
Liz Cheney could be in a lot of trouble based on the evidence obtained by the subcommittee, which states that "numerous federal laws were likely broken by Liz Cheney, and these violations should be investigated by the FBI." Thank you to Congressman Barry Loudermilk on a job well done.
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