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Predict The Electoral College

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mijopaalmc said:
It makes sense to me when I consider the idea that Clinton is pretty much a lost cause and that there may be electors pledged to Trump who don't want him to be president. The Republican Party had not exactly been united in their support of Trump, so it is conceivable that there might be electors pledged to Trump who would prefer to vote for someone from the Party establishment rather than Trump. Ire all depends on where the Trump-pledged electors see their loyalty as lying.
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The only elector I have heard of who pledged to vote for the Republican winner and now will not do so has resigned his position. I don't know how the rules in Texas work, but I will go out on a limb and predict the vacated position will be filled by an elector who will be enthusiastically voting for Trump. Are there other faithless Republican electors? I haven't heard of any.
 
Dumb All Over said:
The only elector I have heard of who pledged to vote for the Republican winner and now will not do so has resigned his position. I don't know how the rules in Texas work, but I will go out on a limb and predict the vacated position will be filled by an elector who will be enthusiastically voting for Trump. Are there other faithless Republican electors? I haven't heard of any.
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I don't know how electors are chosen or if they are chosen for their loyalty to the Party or to the candidate. The former and the latter loyalties appear to be somewhat different for both major parties this year.
 
mijopaalmc said:
I don't know how electors are chosen or if they are chosen for their loyalty to the Party or to the candidate. The former and the latter loyalties appear to be somewhat different for both major parties this year.
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I believe they are chosen based on party loyalty. The Republican Party will be in control of the Senate, the House and the Presidency, and the President-elect will appoint Supreme Court justices solidifying a conservative bench. For at least the next two years, the Republicans will dominate Washington at every level. Every party loyalist knows this and will vote accordingly. Any differences separating party and candidate are miniscule and not enough to sway an elector to vote faithlessly and ignore the political riches the immediate future holds.
 
Dumb All Over said:
The only elector I have heard of who pledged to vote for the Republican winner and now will not do so has resigned his position. I don't know how the rules in Texas work, but I will go out on a limb and predict the vacated position will be filled by an elector who will be enthusiastically voting for Trump. Are there other faithless Republican electors? I haven't heard of any.
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In a news article I read, it said that the first order of business for the Texas electors will be to replace the elector. Presumably, Texas law provides that the existing electors elect a new elector in the event that there is a vacancy as they prepare to vote.
 
Foolmewunz said:
I'm exercising my Ohio option, as mentioned earlier. There's got to be one that puts the talking heads in a tizzy and I think Clinton takes OH.

My guess, now is Clinton 341 - Trump 197
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Recap:
mumblethrax: Clinton 360
ddt: Clinton 342
Foolmewunz: Clinton 341
Stacko: Clinton 341
Meadmaker: Clinton 337
TheL8Elvis: Clinton 328
MikeG: Clinton 319
Craig4: Clinton 317
Sherkeu: Clinton 308
Loss Leader: Clinton 303
Nate Silver: Clinton 302
Skeptic Ginger: Clinton 300
Tero: Clinton 290
shemp: Clinton 272
Cain: Clinton +270

Final result ----> Crooked Hillary 232​
 
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Slings and Arrows said:
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Recap:
mumblethrax: Clinton 360
ddt: Clinton 342
Foolmewunz: Clinton 341
Stacko: Clinton 341
Meadmaker: Clinton 337
TheL8Elvis: Clinton 328
MikeG: Clinton 319
Craig4: Clinton 317
Sherkeu: Clinton 308
Loss Leader: Clinton 303
Nate Silver: Clinton 302
Skeptic Ginger: Clinton 300
Tero: Clinton 290
shemp: Clinton 272
Cain: Clinton +270

Final result ----> Crooked Hillary 232​
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With ~200000 out of over 12000000 votes cast making the difference.
 
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Slings and Arrows said:
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Recap:
mumblethrax: Clinton 360
ddt: Clinton 342
Foolmewunz: Clinton 341
Stacko: Clinton 341
Meadmaker: Clinton 337
TheL8Elvis: Clinton 328
MikeG: Clinton 319
Craig4: Clinton 317
Sherkeu: Clinton 308
Loss Leader: Clinton 303
Nate Silver: Clinton 302
Skeptic Ginger: Clinton 300
Tero: Clinton 290
shemp: Clinton 272
Cain: Clinton +270

Final result ----> Crooked Hillary 232​
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I later changed my vote to Clinton 323.

And if somebody had bet me a hundred dollars that Trump would win, I would've taken it.

If somebody would've bet me a hundred dollars that Cleveland would beat Golden State (when they were down three games to one), I might've taken that bet as well. Same with the series when the Cubs were facing elimination and had only one win.

It's true that some people had faith in their underdogs, but it's poor form to celebrate that faith. Faith is stupid.
 
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Slings and Arrows said:
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Recap:
mumblethrax: Clinton 360
ddt: Clinton 342
Foolmewunz: Clinton 341
Stacko: Clinton 341
Meadmaker: Clinton 337
TheL8Elvis: Clinton 328
MikeG: Clinton 319
Craig4: Clinton 317
Sherkeu: Clinton 308
Loss Leader: Clinton 303
Nate Silver: Clinton 302
Skeptic Ginger: Clinton 300
Tero: Clinton 290
shemp: Clinton 272
Cain: Clinton +270

Final result ----> Crooked Hillary 232​
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Where is The Don in your list ?

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or Hlafordlaes ?
 
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wareyin said:
And how exactly will people who were pledged to vote for Clinton refusing to vote for Clinton prevent Trump becoming president?
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They can vote for anybody they like. The idea is that they would join with dissenting Republicans to elect a palatable Republican.
 
Bob001 said:
They can vote for anybody they like. The idea is that they would join with dissenting Republicans to elect a palatable Republican.
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Know what that requires? Dissenting Republicans. Know what we have instead? Dissenting Democrats.
 
mijopaalmc said:
I don't know how electors are chosen or if they are chosen for their loyalty to the Party or to the candidate. The former and the latter loyalties appear to be somewhat different for both major parties this year.
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They are active party members. Theoretically the interests of the party and the party's candidate should be the same.
 
wareyin said:
Ok. One Republican elector won't vote for Trump, 7 Democratic ones won't vote for Clinton, so unless 38 or so more Republican electors join the one we have, Trump will be President. Notice how the 7 Democratic faithless electors don't actually alter that?
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I don't think they have a chance of winning, mostly because electors are party loyalists and activists. But theoretically, they could.
 
Man. In my lifetime I will never enjoy an election more then this one.
 
NoahFence said:
You enjoy watching America get destroyed?
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Surprisingly more people share that sentiment than I would have expected. Even more surprisingly, a lot of them are Americans. Not surprisingly at all, though, I'm already seeing squawking (on Facebook) by those who were enthusiastic Trump supporters about the Republican moves on Social Security that anyone not drunk on Fox/Breitbart knew would happen with a Trump win.
 
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