Post-revolution polls in Egypt

Even the Salafists join:

Ahram said:
[...] Deciding to remain neutral, the Salafist Call and Nour Party refrained from joining the 30 June protests demanding the president’s dismissal, and also the counter rallies supporting Morsi’s “legitimacy.”

But after two days of massive protests against Morsi, they endorsed the opposition’s main demand (early presidential elections), and also called for a government of technocrats and a committee for constitutional amendments. [...]
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:eye-poppi
 
Childlike Empress said:
Even the Salafists join:




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Even the most gung-ho nutjobs want good governance when the supermarket shelves are empty, tourists stay away and braving cross-town traffic is more dangerous then fighting in the front-lines in Syria.

Apparently.

So, would that nice Mr Al-Baradei stand a chance this time?
 
Eddie Dane said:
So, would that nice Mr Al-Baradei stand a chance this time?
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I don't know. He failed quite miserably last time, didn't he? He's more like the elder statesmen guy and that's why he was just delegated as spokesperson for the opposition's coordinating body.

Foreign minister resigned in the night, making it five resigned ministers.

If Morsi cares about the country he resigns before the Tamarod ultimatum runs out so that Egypt doesn't have to see what the announced civil disobedience of the masses and the military "road map" look like. That would be in the next four and a half hours.
 
Streets are almost as full as on Sunday. People are as announced marching to the presidential palace(s). More resignations, more proposed road maps, Morsi proposed a referendum about whether or not he should finish his term, but it doesn't seem like anybody has any patience with him anymore.
 
Egypt: Army to suspend constitution, legislature

Egypt's state news agency says the military has drawn up a plan to suspend the Islamist-backed constitution, dissolve the Islamist-dominated legislature, and set up an interim administration if President Mohammed Morsi fails to reach a solution with his opponents.

The agency's report Tuesday provides the first details of the road map the military has said it will implement if a deadline it set for Wednesday runs out with no solution.

A retired army general with close ties to the military confirmed the report.

Hossam Sweilam said a panel of experts would draft a new constitution and the interim administration would be a presidential council led by the Supreme Constitutional Court's chief justice and including the defense minister, representatives of political parties, youth groups, Al-Azhar Mosque and the Coptic Church.
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Well, that seems pretty unambiguous.
 
Claiming to be the last bastion of Egyptian democracy while most of your country is risking life and limb to force you out probably isn't the smartest possible tactic.

"It failed in the previous five elections we had in Egypt since the revolution, and they don't want to fail a sixth time," he said. "That's why they're going to street politics. Street politics is not an end in itself. It is a means to achieve democracy. But they're not willing to go toward a democratic system."
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They'll accomplish nothing just as they've accomplished nothing in the last thousand years.
 
Virus said:
They'll accomplish nothing just as they've accomplished nothing in the last thousand years.
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Like I said before, they're screwed and no amount of leadership can fix it.

Not enough water, arable land, education, natural resources, money, work etc.
Too much people, ignorance, religion, strife etc.

Maybe making them a Chinese province for half a century, or selling the whole thing to Google would give them a chance.

I was there in '92 with my blonde girlfriend. Constant harassment ensued.

Crossing the border into Israel was like entering the gates of heaven.
I walked past the last Egyptian border guard who was slumped a chair and watched in apathy as we walked by, and were met by an alert, tall Israeli guard with a crew cut and clean uniform.
immediately went to have a beer in a cool bar.

Eilat: where Kandahar meets Miami.
 
trustbutverify said:
Claiming to be the last bastion of Egyptian democracy while most of your country is risking life and limb to force you out probably isn't the smartest possible tactic.
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And the army's response:

Egypt’s high command said on Wednesday the army was ready to die to defend Egypt’s people against terrorists and fools, in a response to Islamist President Mohamed Mursi that was headlined “The Final Hours”.

The post on the official Facebook page of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF), headed by armed forces chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, said: “We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

Issued three hours after Mursi appeared on television to reject an ultimatum from Sisi that he share power with his opponents or face a military solution by 10:00 a.m. EDT (1500 GMT), a military source said the statement made clear that the armed forces would not abandon their demands.
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There's just something surreal about seeing a possible military coup overthrowing the president of Egypt in response to massive street protests being communicated via the medium of smack-talking on Facebook.
 
ANTPogo said:
There's just something surreal about seeing a possible military coup overthrowing the president of Egypt in response to massive street protests being communicated via the medium of smack-talking on Facebook.
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Seems like they'll soon use more authoritative channels:

AP said:
The military beefed up its presence inside the mammoth headquarters of state television on the banks of the Nile River in central Cairo. Crack troops were deployed in news-production areas. Officers from the army's media department moved inside the newsroom and were monitoring output, though not yet interfering, staffers said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk about the arrangements.
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Ultimatum ends in 45 minutes.
 
This article speculates that the reason the army turned on Morsi so dramatically after initially seeming to be on board with his presidency is that they were decidedly unhappy with Morsi's enthusiasm for getting Egypt directly entangled in the war in Syria. Well, that and the fact that the army controls 40% of the economic interests in Egypt, and mass chaos and near-civil-war are bad for business.
 
El Baradei is spokesman for the opposition.

Has Morsi even met him?

And if not, why the hell not?

He could really take the edge of the whole situation with some token meetings. You know, look like you're listening, take the wind out of the army's sails.

Does Morsi have rocks in his head?
 
Eddie Dane said:
El Baradei is spokesman for the opposition.

Has Morsi even met him?

And if not, why the hell not?

He could really take the edge of the whole situation with some token meetings. You know, look like you're listening, take the wind out of the army's sails.

Does Morsi have rocks in his head?
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After announcing the week long "deadline" and the current 48 hour version, the army has been practically begging Morsi to meet an array of benchmarks designed to possibly deflate the situation while still remaining in office. Had he given command something substantial to hang its hat on, they would have been more than happy stay above the fray. But this ridiculous posture of the protector of the Egyptian people against military domination and portraying the massive crowds as Mubarak supporters has sealed this regimes fate. The army wanted no part of this, they were forced.

But personally, I have no problem with these religious bigots being swept out of power.
 
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