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Pornography and Rape

bpesta22 said:
I don't know if I buy the claim that internet porn is doing anything for or against rape rates (or other sexual things). I suspect people fapped before the internet. It's likely just a convenience versus some magic cure-all.

Did rape rates go down after the VCR became available?
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I don't know. However even with the VCR, which in itself did a great deal to bring AV porn to the masses by allowing them to view it in the privacy of their own home rather than in a theatre, you still had to go to an adult movie provider and go home with a brown paper bag. Nowadays you can have arbitrarily large quantities of porn to suit almost any taste delivered to you instantly.

I suspect that some people who would go out and rape someone given the choice of rape or a trip to the video store, might just stay home and fap given access to the internet.

Juniversal said:
I don't totally agree. And I do think cutting a serial rapist penis off would indeed stop them in MOST cases. I imagine being devoid of a penis is a pretty good way to kill sex drive.
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You might want to look at one of those cutaway diagrams of the male genitalia they use in very basic sex education classes. The testes, which produce your sex hormones, are in the testicles. (Testes, testicles, see the link?). They are not in the penis. Cutting off the penis does nothing to kill your sex drive.
 
Cleon said:
My recollection is that the "evidence" consists of "most rapists look at porn," which strikes me as a bit hollow. Most of them likely eat fast food as well, but that doesn't mean that fast food causes rape.
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It is a well-established fact that all rapists also breathe oxygen. Therefore, breathing oxygen causes rape.
 
The old saw, "rape isn't about sex, it's about violence" (or power, or whatever) is not shared by forensic sexologists...at least the ones I've read.
John Money said that rape was about sex...

Many are not aware that there are several different types of rapists. Their motives/compulsions are quite different.

There are individuals like our local "South Side Rapist" who genuinely believe that they are in love with the women they attack, and cannot understand why the women do not reciprocate when the act is finished.
They seldom harm their victims (other than psychologically) and frequently will try to re-contact the victim as they now have a "relationship".

On the other end of the spectrum is the individual who is excited by violence and resistance, and often severely injure or kill their victims. These types often drift into serial killing...
 
Kevin_Lowe said:
You might want to look at one of those cutaway diagrams of the male genitalia they use in very basic sex education classes. The testes, which produce your sex hormones, are in the testicles. (Testes, testicles, see the link?). They are not in the penis. Cutting off the penis does nothing to kill your sex drive.
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Oh really?? I didn't know that.. *sarcasm*

Maybe I should have said not having a penis might work well in giving one a pretty BIG aversion to having sex (forced or otherwise).
 
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Bikewer said:
Many are not aware that there are several different types of rapists. Their motives/compulsions are quite different.
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Personally I think the "it's all about power - rape is rape" dogma has done women a disservice. I studied and wrote a report about rape law years ago at uni, and I don't think things have changed much in the interim, but one clear issue is that most people accused of rape do not get convicted. From my studies I concluded that one of the reasons for this was there was no distinction between, for extreme examples, a date rape situation where a woman may have changed her mind after intercourse had begun, and a stranger dragging a jogger in the bushes and beating and raping them. Rape is rape was the mantra.

Juries don't buy that and they simply wouldn't convict in cases where they had some empathy for the rapists position - even if they agreed the rapists had done something wrong.

An irony is that in most places the "passion defence" is an allowable mitagation in the crime of murder, ie the murderer was overcome by passion (not just sexual, could be hate, revenge whatever) and thus was not entirely in control at the time of the murder. In rape though, becoming overcome by passion is no defence. Rape is rape.

I believe if the law included "degrees of rape", much like there are degrees of murder, including manslaughter, there would be a much higher rape conviction rate. As it stands now, both police and victims know there is little chance of a conviction, so many cases are not even bought to trial. Indeed, an astute and deliberate rapist could easily get away with serial date rapes knowing they have little risk of conviction. How do women win anything out of this?
 
Rape seems to be about sex and power, not either-or. Why the artificial either/or choice?

The act is sexual, and the 'you have to have it now, and I the rapist am doing you now" is an exercise in power to choose, and to deny the other party the choice to delcline.

DR
 
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St.Michael said:
I’m trying to find articles discussing the arguments for and against the supposed link between access to porn and rape. I’m not having much luck using google, can anyone help out here?
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I think eyeballs that can actully view the porn might be the connection to rape. I have a pair that blocks out that kind of dirty stuff with an implanted ratings chip should I accidently come across any. And I've never raped anyone. See?
 
LibraryLady said:
* LibraryLady;5197662 clears her throat



Go. To. The. Library.

If you have a library card you can probably log in remotely and search actual newspaper and journal databases.

The. Library.

http://www.prattlibrary.org/findanswers/email_question.aspx
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Good advice.

If I remember correctly ******** did an episode on anti-porn crusaders and tried to find any work done on the 'porn leads to rape' claim. The closest they could find was that rates of sexual assault fell as internet access increased, specifically by state.

This assumes that I'm remembering correctly and that the show was honest.
 
Saying lower decapitation will reduce rape is like saying removing all guns will reduce murder. There was murder for thousands of years before guns, and rape can be committed with objects and such.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Think lubrication. That is, unless you like chafing.
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It seems to be a feature of US solo sex culture. In the USA hand lotion is strongly associated with male masturbation. You can't read US comedy for long without running into references to it. I don't think I've ever heard it mentioned by folks from other nations though.

It certainly wasn't a feature of Australian culture when I was in an all-boys school as a teenager. Jokes about wanking yes, jokes about hand lotion no.
 
Kevin_Lowe said:
It seems to be a feature of US solo sex culture. In the USA hand lotion is strongly associated with male masturbation. You can't read US comedy for long without running into references to it. I don't think I've ever heard it mentioned by folks from other nations though.

It certainly wasn't a feature of Australian culture when I was in an all-boys school as a teenager. Jokes about wanking yes, jokes about hand lotion no.
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Yeah, I've heard that it is because of circumcision being super common in the US, and a uncut guys don't worry about friction.
 
St.Michael said:
I’m trying to find articles discussing the arguments for and against the supposed link between access to porn and rape. I’m not having much luck using google, can anyone help out here?
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I just want to congratulate you on your cool avatar.
Carry on!
 
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