Pope Leo XIV

[Orphia Nay]

New pope, new pope thread, same old Catholic Church.

"Pope Leo XIV (born Robert Francis Prevost; September 14, 1955) is the bishop of Rome, head of the Catholic Church and sovereign of the Vatican City State. He was elected pope in the 2025 papal conclave on May 8, following the death and funeral of Pope Francis."

Pope Leo XIV - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In his first address, he said "he was "deeply hurt" by events in Gaza, expressed hope for a "lasting accord" between India and Pakistan, and wished for a "authentic, true and lasting peace" in Ukraine."

Pope Leo appeals for no more war in first Sunday address

The pontiff calls for a "lasting peace" in Ukraine and says he is "deeply hurt" by events in Gaza.

www.bbc.com

"Pope Leo has just finished his news conference in Vatican City, during which he emphasised the importance of careful communication "in favour of peace"."

Pope Leo urges release of imprisoned journalists in first news conference

It comes after the pontiff appealed for "no more war" during his first Sunday address at the Vatican.

www.bbc.com

Nothing on the Catholic Church abuse scandals, but then, he's preaching to the converted who don't want to hear about that.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

His brother is in the news has a kinda POS.

 

[Puppycow]

His brother is in the news has a kinda POS.

Googled it. Ugh.
Wish I hadn't.

Well, we don't get to choose our siblings. He's not the pope. Just a typical MAGA nitwit whose brother happens to be the pope.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Wasn't it Stalin who asked, "How many troops has the Pope?"

 

[catsmate]

Wasn't it Stalin who asked, "How many troops has the Pope?"

About 2,200 when he asked.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

trouble in the Catholic Church: an extreme catholic group wants to ordain its own Bishops without the Vatican.

Pope Leo pleads with ultra-conservative sect not to ordain own bishops

Pontiff warns that defiance by Society of Saint Pius X would be ‘schismatic act’

www.theguardian.com

Splitters !

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Wasn't it Stalin who asked, "How many troops has the Pope?"

I think it was "how many divisions"

trouble in the Catholic Church: an extreme catholic group wants to ordain its own Bishops without the Vatican.

Pope Leo pleads with ultra-conservative sect not to ordain own bishops

Pontiff warns that defiance by Society of Saint Pius X would be ‘schismatic act’

www.theguardian.com

Splitters !

Oops. There's another division right there.

 

[Darat]

Schisms - we've not a had a good one for ages!

"You are excommunicated!"

"No - you are excommunicated"

 

[The Great Zaganza]

It's time we break up the monopoly on Indulgences.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

It's time we break up the monopoly on Indulgences.

Sometimes I indulge myself with a shot of Crown Royal. Does that count?

 

[Orphia Nay]

Schisms - we've not a had a good one for ages!

"You are excommunicated!"

"No - you are excommunicated"

Ooh, a schism! Exciting!

 

[Norman Alexander]

Who's taking book on the next Holy War?

 

[Trebuchet]

Sometimes I indulge myself with a shot of Crown Royal. Does that count?

As long as my several glasses of wine does, why not?

 

[Puppycow]

Maybe I'm misremembering, but hasn't this happened before?

Yes, yes it has, under John Paul II:

Society of Saint Pius X - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tensions between the Society and the Holy See climaxed in 1988 with the Écône consecrations: Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated four bishops without the Apostolic Mandate and against a personal warning by Pope John Paul II,[11] resulting in the Vatican declaration that the bishops who consecrated or were consecrated had incurred latæ sententiæ (automatic) excommunication.[12] However, the SSPX denied that the bishops incurred any penalty, and argued that the consecrations were permissible under canon law due to a moral and theological crisis in the Catholic Church. The declared excommunication of the surviving bishops was removed at their request, in the hope of speedily reaching "full reconciliation and complete communion" (2009).

And who was Pope in 2009? Benedict. I remember that the reconciliation with this group was part of his legacy. So all of this has happened before. They were excommunicated by the Pope himself, and their response was "no we aren't." Eventually the excommunication was reversed by Benedict. So maybe they believe that they just have to wait for another conservative Pope and everything will be back to normal again.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Outside the senior Roman Catholic clergy, who else could not care less?

 

[Puppycow]

Well, they went ahead and did it:

Defying Pope Leo XIV, traditionalists go ahead with bishop consecrations in Switzerland

A breakaway group of traditionalist Catholics has directly defied Pope Leo XIV by consecrating four bishops without his consent. The Society of St.

apnews.com

At the start of the Mass, a priest read aloud a statement justifying the consecrations as a necessary “sacred duty” and dismissing the resulting penalties. “We consider every punishment and censure brought to bear against this step will have no validity,” he said.

In the consecration rite, Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta, who himself was excommunicated after being consecrated without papal consent in 1988, placed his hands on the head of each of the four new bishops. The ritual confers the Holy Spirit from one bishop to another and recalls Christ’s gesture to his apostles. After they received their miter hats, gloves and pastoral staffs, the four made a procession through the crowd, blessing the faithful as bishops.

According to church law, consecrating a bishop without a papal mandate incurs the harshest penalty in the Catholic Church: automatic excommunication for the four new bishops and the bishop administering the rite. It also amounts to a schismatic act, an intentional rupture of church unity.

Outside the senior Roman Catholic clergy, who else could not care less?

I don't particularly care other than for some mild amusement at the contradictions and petty infighting. It's a church based on top-down authoritarian rule, and here you have "traditionalists" defying church authority in the name of "We're more Catholic than the Pope!" or something.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Outside the senior Roman Catholic clergy, who else could not care less?

I don't particularly care other than for some mild amusement at the contradictions and petty infighting. It's a church based on top-down authoritarian rule, and here you have "traditionalists" defying church authority in the name of "We're more Catholic than the Pope!" or something.

It's like World Cup Poping.

 

[Orphia Nay]

Well, they went ahead and did it:

Defying Pope Leo XIV, traditionalists go ahead with bishop consecrations in Switzerland

A breakaway group of traditionalist Catholics has directly defied Pope Leo XIV by consecrating four bishops without his consent. The Society of St.

apnews.com

I don't particularly care other than for some mild amusement at the contradictions and petty infighting. It's a church based on top-down authoritarian rule, and here you have "traditionalists" defying church authority in the name of "We're more Catholic than the Pope!" or something.

Aren't popes supposed to be holy? Or are there degrees of holiness? Are they going to call themselves the Holier Catholic Church?

 

[Darat]

Who's taking book on the next Holy War?

This one will be fought by the marketing departments, so will be a lot more vicious than any we've ever seen before!

 

[Helen]

Aren't popes supposed to be holy? Or are there degrees of holiness? Are they going to call themselves the Holier Catholic Church?

If they call themselves Holier than Thou, they can feud with other churches and religions as well. That used to be a really popular pastime,.