Planned Parenthood Racism Investigation

[Safe-Keeper]

While I understand that you might think his mind is unreachable, Planned Parenthood was started by Margaret Sanger. a believer in eugenics, and so the organization does have the scar of racist motivations on it.

Possibly, as long as you realize this does not necessarily have a bearing on its current goals. But I'm sure you understand this as well as we do.

 

[Travis]

Just because you are attempting to defend the indefensible does not make the presenter dishonest.

If by this you mean to imply that someone here is defending Eugenics then I must have missed it.

Bottom line, Jerome, is that even if Planned Parenthood believed in Eugenics it could not, through the services it provides, actually assist in advancing the cause of Eugenics unless it was demonstrably favoring one ethnicity over another. And even then it would not be favoring one ethnicity by performing more abortions for those women. The favored ethnicity would get the abortions they want thus leading to fewer unwanted babies in that ethnic group. The discriminated group would be refused abortions and would be stuck with the unwanted babies.

So, if Planned Parenthood is performing more abortions on Black women then it is favoring Black women and hurting all the other women. You seem to believe that this is the case since you repeatedly stated that the Black race was being "culled." Therefore, if what you asserted is true, then Planned Parenthood is racist but against White women and not against Black women.

 

[JoeEllison]

If by this you mean to imply that someone here is defending Eugenics then I must have missed it.

His position is an utter lie. You didn't miss anything.

 

[LostAngeles]

I saw the issue of The Advocate sitting in one of my classes at UCLA. When I saw the cover, I figured it was the usual race-baiting tactic of, "Gonna get bred out."

They went out to smear PP. They used an old fear that even Prussian Blue tries to exploit. "They want to breed us out." They had to find just one idiot in one place to do so.

 

[qayak]

I have know idea. Either way the NRA is not funded by tax monies and does not accept donations for the purpose of culling BLACKS.

Well, actually, the NRA prevented blacks from owning guns for quite some time. This pretty much guaranteed blacks were going to lose any gun fights that broke out, resulting in blacks dying. So, I guess that is culling blacks.

The NRA has received a lot of taxpayers money over the years.

 

[qayak]

Sorry, your analogy fails.

The post office was not set-up to cull the population of those deemed undesirable.

In your mind I suppose anything you don't like fails. However, in reality, this little tidbit you feel is so important, means absolutely nothing.

Besides, Planned Parenthood isn't set up for that purpose either.

 

[zooterkin]

It was founded by a eugenicist and it currently accepts donations for the purpose of culling specific peoples based on racial characteristics.

Very good. Now, would you care to try again, only this time answer the question that was asked?

Do you have any evidence whatsoever that the organisation today in any way supports eugenics?

 

[linusrichard]

The real question here isn't where Jerome finds his evidence or why he cares, but rather... why does he keep capitalizing "BLACK"? Does he think it makes his assertion (not even an argument, but a just plain assertion) sound stronger? Dramatic effect? Just wrote it once with capslock on accidentally, and kept pasting it from the original typing?

Curious minds want to know.

My guess: He thinks it's an acronym. Or a blackronym.

 

[Travis]

My guess: He thinks it's an acronym. Or a blackronym.

At least he's not calling them "Urban Folk."

 

[Fronzel]

I visit another forum where a member gets the monthly Right Wing Talking points email. It is funny seeing him regurgitate the same arguments that crop up at the same time at the rest of the right wingers. Wait, not funny. Sad.

I guess my issue with this is abortions are voluntary. So I can't see how even if Planned Parenthood marked the money for African Ame...sorry, BLACK babies, it doesn't really mean anything. Just more money from taxpayers to eliminate the WHITE scourge.

They had to find just one idiot in one place to do so.

Yes. They didn't mention the people that hung up on them.

 

[linusrichard]

Bigots Love Aborting (Culling) Kids?

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Bigots Love Aborting (Culling) Kids?

Not bigots, eugenicists.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project

It [charity] encourages the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America. Are we being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." Is her vision being fulfilled today?

From the above link.

 

[linusrichard]

Right, so is this the scenario: White people who want abortions don't get them because there's not a PP in their neighborhood, while black people who don't want abortions get them anyway because the PP in their neighborhood pressures them into it? Is this really what you, Jerome, think is happening?

Guess what? In the United States, black people are more likely to be poor than white people. This is not Planned Parenthood's fault. Guess what else? Poor people are more likely to want abortions than well-off people. This is also not Planned Parenthood's fault. So, due to factors out of PP's control, you take those two factors and you end up with a greater demand for abortions among black people. Make no mistake, this is a bad thing, but it was not engineered by Planned Parenthood.

Given the greater demand for abortions among black people, what would you, Jerome, suggest Planned Parenthood do? Deny abortions to black women seeking them until a certain quota of white abortions had been performed? Open more offices in wealthier, whiter neighborhoods? Anything realistic?

 

[zooterkin]

Well, I must commend you for producing something, at last.

I'm afraid that to me it doesn't look like a terribly credible source, certainly not unbiased. The URL suggests a certain amount of overdramatisation, for a start - blackgenocide.org.

Why we oppose Planned Parenthood

Planned Parenthood is not a benevolent organization trying to strengthen women's rights. It is a cold, calculating group intent on spreading the Humanist religion, luring our children into their web of premarital sex and unlimited abortions, reducing the population of minorities in particula and filling its coffers with the profits from sales of birth control devices.

Looks to me as though they're trying to promote support for their 'pro-life' agenda by linking it to racism, but I'm not really qualified to comment on the politics of this.

L.E.A.R.N. Northeast is part of the Life Education And Resource Network (LEARN), a national network of Christian pro-life/pro-family advocates who are dedicated to protecting the pre-born and promoting traditional family values.

ETA: linusrichard has put into words the doubts I was having about the figures that Jerome was quoting from the blackgenocide site.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Well, I must commend you for producing something, at last.

I'm afraid that to me it doesn't look like a terribly credible source, certainly not unbiased. The URL suggests a certain amount of overdramatisation, for a start - blackgenocide.org.

Why we oppose Planned Parenthood


Looks to me as though they're trying to promote support for their 'pro-life' agenda by linking it to racism, but I'm not really qualified to comment on the politics of this.



ETA: linusrichard has put into words the doubts I was having about the figures that Jerome was quoting from the blackgenocide site.

Do the motivations of various groups exposing the genocide of BLACKS preformed by Planned Parenthood change the facts?

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Right, so is this the scenario: White people who want abortions don't get them because there's not a PP in their neighborhood, while black people who don't want abortions get them anyway because the PP in their neighborhood pressures them into it? Is this really what you, Jerome, think is happening?

Guess what? In the United States, black people are more likely to be poor than white people. This is not Planned Parenthood's fault. Guess what else? Poor people are more likely to want abortions than well-off people. This is also not Planned Parenthood's fault. So, due to factors out of PP's control, you take those two factors and you end up with a greater demand for abortions among black people. Make no mistake, this is a bad thing, but it was not engineered by Planned Parenthood.

Given the greater demand for abortions among black people, what would you, Jerome, suggest Planned Parenthood do? Deny abortions to black women seeking them until a certain quota of white abortions had been performed? Open more offices in wealthier, whiter neighborhoods? Anything realistic?

Your questions would be relevant if Planned Parenthood was founded to provide abortions to those in need.

It was founded to cull the undesirables from the population. Why do you ignore this fact?

 

[Loss Leader]

Just because you are attempting to defend the indefensible does not make the presenter dishonest.

Are you saying that your psychiatric problems are preventing you from being honest? If so, please provide evidence.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Are you saying that your psychiatric problems are preventing you from being honest? If so, please provide evidence.

Esquire, is this how you practice law?

The weakest form of debate is to personally attack an opponent.

You are presenting for all to see the glory of your failings.