Plane crash differences

[Gravy]

I have been having trouble with my computer, so I could not access this site yesterday.

I am very impressed by your film. The ground below the plane had to be scorched? The lawn at the Pentagon wasn't. But, if your film was the real thing, I am amazed.

kc440

You didn't know there was aircraft debris on the lawn, but you know it wasn't scorched? Give it a rest, kc. This act is pathetic.

 

[Spins]

youd think this would be a logical argument for a plane at the pentagon, but somehow i think kc will see this as evidence for missiles at the WTC

Yeah, it's a pity we all don't live on planet tin-foil, j/k.

What I still can't fathom is why CT'ers still insist on mentioning the security camera footage at the Pentagon as if it's some sort of "smoking gun".

They have us believe the US Gov. has attempted and seemingly done a very good job of covering up one of the biggest crimes ever, yet they ruin it all by releasing their own security camera footage, err ok.

 

[kc440_]

What's the message?

Just to help add another nail in the coffin of "IT WAS A CRUZ MISSLE!!!"

Yugoslav Aeronautical Museum Shows parts left from a Tomahawk fired into Kosovo. I ask any missile CT to find me pictures or video of the same parts in the aftermath of the Pentagon.

Tomahawk strike in Baghdad The damage done here by 2 missiles pales in comparison to the Pentagon.

Baghdad Bunker destroyed by bunker-buster missile Check out the lack of fire damage there

High Rez and sized pic of busted bunker Wow look at all the burn marks, ahh wait....

Another busted bunker Again notice the lack of burning and collapse damage

Building bombed in Baghdad Look mom, no collapsing

Islaeli missile strike in Gaza 3 story civilian, IE non-reenforced concrete building, again lacks the Pentagon's burning, and this one had a partial collapse.

I looked at all your photos. There were buildings still standing after being bombed -- I get the Pentagon gist. But it seems to contradict the WTC, which was not left standing.

kc440

 

[defaultdotxbe]

I looked at all your photos. There were buildings still standing after being bombed -- I get the Pentagon gist. But it seems to contradict the WTC, which was not left standing.

kc440

and that might be a valid point if the WTC had been hit by a small missile as opposed to a huge airplane

 

[realitybites]

I looked at all your photos. There were buildings still standing after being bombed -- I get the Pentagon gist. But it seems to contradict the WTC, which was not left standing.

kc440

How tall is the Pentagon? Is it constructed the same way as the towers? Same materials used?

Why do you insist on finding discrepancies within events that aren't remotely similar?

 

[kc440_]

Plane or Missile?

i could ask you the saem question, how can you tell they belong to a missile?

The parts are so small, it would have to be a missile. And why was a man in a suit trying to pick up the evidence? I bet that piece weighed less than a pound.

kc440

 

[azazal]

Yeah, it's a pity we all don't live on planet tin-foil, j/k.

What I still can't fathom is why CT'ers still insist on mentioning the security camera footage at the Pentagon as if it's some sort of "smoking gun".

They have us believe the US Gov. has attempted and seemingly done a very good job of covering up one of the biggest crimes ever, yet they ruin it all by releasing their own security camera footage, err ok.

Don't forget, this is the same troofer land gubbermnt that planned and executed one of the greatest fraud/mass murders in history, yet couldn't plant a some chemical, biological or nuclear weapons in Iraq.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

The parts are so small, it would have to be a missile. And why was a man in a suit trying to pick up the evidence? I bet that piece weighed less than a pound.

kc440

its small so it had to be a missile? even you must realize how little sense that makes

and yes, aircraft aluminum does not weigh very much, thats why its used in aircraft

 

[realitybites]

The parts are so small, it would have to be a missile. And why was a man in a suit trying to pick up the evidence? I bet that piece weighed less than a pound.

kc440

Would you have preferred a man wearing sweat-pants? You're hinting at something. Stop beating around the bush and get to your point.

 

[Spins]

The parts are so small, it would have to be a missile. And why was a man in a suit trying to pick up the evidence? I bet that piece weighed less than a pound.

kc440

How many missiles have a front landing gear strut? Answers on a postcard please!

 

[azazal]

I looked at all your photos. There were buildings still standing after being bombed -- I get the Pentagon gist. But it seems to contradict the WTC, which was not left standing.

kc440

Look at how much damage was done to the Pentagon, the amount of structural collapse, the amount of fire damage. Then look at the linked pics for damage, notice how much less collapsing and damage are in those pictures compared to the Pentagon.

 

[Fitter]

The parts are so small, it would have to be a missile. And why was a man in a suit trying to pick up the evidence? I bet that piece weighed less than a pound.

kc440

I have had the unfortunate experience of picking up pieces of A/C parts many times in my career and most of the skin and other non-structural parts weigh very little. I have been at crash sites involving light A/C, helicopters, business jets and fighters. None of them look the same and anyone who would expect them to obviously has no knowledge of A/C design and construction. If you want to use "observation" and "personal expectations" as a basis for making judgements use mine. At least I've observed crash sites and know what to expect when the phone rings telling me we've lost another one.

 

[Spins]

Don't forget, this is the same troofer land gubbermnt that planned and executed one of the greatest fraud/mass murders in history, yet couldn't plant a some chemical, biological or nuclear weapons in Iraq.

Even better they publicly admitted they were dumbasses and hadn't found any WMD, surely these aren't the actions of a Gov. hell bent on world domination that are willing and capable of covering up anything, essentially what the CT'ers have us believe.

 

[kc440_]

Who's on First?

You have all thrown so much evidence at me. I feel you could be right. So you accomplished something. But it's like a court case. The defense puts on an expert witness and the prosecuter does the same. Which one is correct?

If it's any consolation, I saw Hilary Rodham Clinton on TV last night. Boy did she look awful.

kc440

 

[azazal]

If it's any consolation, I saw Hilary Rodham Clinton on TV last night. Boy did she look awful.

kc440

No argument here

 

[realitybites]

You have all thrown so much evidence at me. I feel you could be right. So you accomplished something. But it's like a court case. The defense puts on an expert witness and the prosecuter does the same. Which one is correct?

If it's any consolation, I saw Hilary Rodham Clinton on TV last night. Boy did she look awful.

kc440

No disrespect, but I haven't seen any of your expert witnesses yet. (Unless you consider your opinion of what debris should/should not have been at the site "expert".)

 

[njslim]

As an aside New York Medical Examiners office recently matched DNA to
remains recovered from WTC - these are not those recovered from
site in last few weeks. 2 of the people identified are from American 11
the aircraft which hit North Tower.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/467556p-393404c.html

 

[Belz...]

The parts are so small, it would have to be a missile.

So... the larger the object, the larger the pieces ? Necessarily ?

That's kinda weird.

And why was a man in a suit trying to pick up the evidence?

Because it doesn't pick itself up.

I bet that piece weighed less than a pound.

Your point ?

 

[sackett]

You have all thrown so much evidence at me. I feel you could be right. So you accomplished something. But it's like a court case. The defense puts on an expert witness and the prosecuter does the same. Which one is correct?

If it's any consolation, I saw Hilary Rodham Clinton on TV last night. Boy did she look awful.

kc440

Nobody cares what you feel about this. What do you think?

What expert witnesses have you produced to support your viewpoint? Be glad that this isn’t a court case. In court, any two-bit shyster would have you stammering and gibbering in one minute flat.

Are you trying to make nice by joking about H. R. Clinton? Nobody cares.

Man, but I’m tired of ignorance demanding equal time.

 

[Bell]

As an aside New York Medical Examiners office recently matched DNA to
remains recovered from WTC - these are not those recovered from
site in last few weeks. 2 of the people identified are from American 11
the aircraft which hit North Tower.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/467556p-393404c.html

Excuse me? That is really amazing, I would have thought nothing of the victims of AA11 would have remained
I'm guessing they were from bodyparts thrown out of the tower. There were some pictures in the Moussaoui trail, I thought they were from people inside the towers