| PETA is absolutely useless | My letter to them |

[William Parcher]

Schools have us writing essays and papers since age eight! 14 is six years of writing experience!

It is a solid alternative hypothesis to suggest that an adult may have helped with the letter.

But even what was written in the post (not in the letter) suggests a very advanced 14 year old.

please forgive my brevity

That is typical 14 year old writing? No, it isn't. That is advanced.

 

[abaddon]

Note before you read : This is my first post and I am only 14 years old so please forgive my brevity. Also, you can criticize me. I don’t have left-wing journalists to defend me like Greta Thunberg

Da nada. Don't worry about it.

My name is Aadil and Im 14 years old. Not old enough to pay taxes but old enough to say…

Fine by me. I am 50 I have no objection to you having your say.

Your organization is hypocritical.

One of your main missions is to help animals, correct? PETA stands for “People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals”.

At the same time you’re saying this, you are also euthanizing, also known as killing, 80 percent of the animals you take in.[1]

This is so much that you can’t lawfully call yourself an animal shelter. You’re a euthanization clinic. Tell me, knowing this, if I or anyone else would really support an organization who kills thousands of animals a year.

Yes, this is one of the known oddities about PETA. It is a deeply cynical behaviour, but you are correct in every respect.

You also try to spread misinformation. In this article here, 45 Signs You're a Vegan and Just Don't Know It Yet | PETA [2] , the writer tries to convince you you’re a vegan by answering a couple questions.

Ah. Some (but not all) vegans have a religious devotion to Veganism. Not all Vegans are like that, although PETA is.

Such as:

Would you sometimes hang out with animals rather than people?
How does this make someone a vegan? Because you like animals? I’d sincerely like to know.

Are you a feminist?
How is this in any way relevant to veganism? They’re two completely different topics.

You have both correct. They are what is called strawman arguments. They are not remotely connected to the claims.

Would you refuse to eat your dog?
Show me one person who wouldn’t refuse to eat their dog.

Dog is a standard dish in many parts of East Asia. The western revulsion at eating dog is cultural more than anything else.

Do you support oppressed communities and recognize that supremacist viewpoints are whack?
Seriously?

Yup, they are serious. That is different to being taken seriously. There still exist some actual supremacist nations, sure. The overwhelming majority are not.

Would you help a dog left in a hot car?
Just because I would help an animal that’s slowly suffering and dying doesn’t mean I won’t eat meat from a farm. And yes, my family gets meat from local farms.

Of course you would. And me. And anybody with a modicum of empathy. Seems to me like a daft question for PETA to chuck.

Did your childhood BFF’s include your stuffed animals?
What?

Yeah. I had the very same WTF? reaction.

Then at the end, you say this:
Not answering yes to half, or 1/3, answering yes to any of them.

And thus the game is revealed. Answering "yes" to even one of the poorly formulated questions must therefore mean you are a vegan. Colour me surprised.

Also you make pamphlets that are promoted to children [3]

Yes, that is particularly insidious.

Some of you might be thinking this is fake and made by someone else, but it’s not.

So far you get the benefit of any doubt that might exist. To be fair I don't think any doubt exists.

PETA's Comic for Kids Takes Aim at Dads Who Fish | PETA [4]

From PETA’s official website, talking about how your Daddy kills animals.

Yup, they are out there with there beliefs.

you also promote violence against people, as well as killing animals.

Here’s a direct quote from PETA’s campaign manager.

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course, we're going to be blowing things up and smashing windows. For the record, I don't do this stuff, but I advocate it. I think it's a great way to bring about animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, the atrocities."

"I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories and the banks who fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through windows. Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."
-- Bruce Friedrich, PETA Campaign Director, Vegan Campaign Coordinator, Animal Rights 2001 Conference, July 2, 2001

Is it not interesting that he states that he wont do it but encourages others?

I’m sure that there are some people out there that support PETA, but you are highly misinformed.

Be honest with me, do you support them?

Absolutely not. As far as I can determine from their behaviours, they are no more than yet another terrorist group advocating violence.

P.S. Couldn’t put sources here because I don’t have 15 posts (yet)

Simple work around.

Type the citation as a borked link

Eg. www(dot)someplace(dot)com One of us will fix it right up. You will not be breaking any rules.

 

[snorfox]

I am amazed at your writing skill and articulation for a 14 year old. Is it all you, or did you get any adult help with your letter?

Mainly, it’s just a combination of emotion, books, the news, and learning what Grammarly tells me


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[William Parcher]

Mainly, it’s just a combination of emotion, books, the news, and learning what Grammarly tells me

With your writing style and vocabulary you could convince anyone that you are college or beyond.

 

[abaddon]

It is a solid alternative hypothesis to suggest that an adult may have helped with the letter.

But even what was written in the post (not in the letter) suggests a very advanced 14 year old.



That is typical 14 year old writing? No, it isn't. That is advanced.

Odd. Both of my kids would consider that to be "de riguer". You seem to have a very low opinion of children.

 

[William Parcher]

You seem to have a very low opinion of children.

This is non sequitur.

 

[William Parcher]

Also, you can criticize me. I don’t have left-wing journalists to defend me like Greta Thunberg.

I'm curious about your use of this term.

Are your own politics right-wing, or not left-wing?

 

[Darat]

An article about PETAs euthanasia rate. If the article is accurate then at least one PeTA "shelter" kills 90% of the animals that they take in.

https://certifiedhumane.org/does-pe...ats-humane-considering-their-view-on-animals/

 

[Silly Green Monkey]

This is non sequitur.

No, it's a derail. Only my slowest classmates couldn't write like this at 14.

I'm still wondering where left wing/right wing came into the discussion at all.

 

[Loss Leader]

Note before you read : This is my first post and I am only 14 years old so please forgive my brevity.

First of all, welcome. Glad to have inquisitive, young minds.

Second, you can just write your links, maybe just put (dot) where one would be. Some friendly person will translate them into working links for you.

Third, I personally think the problem with PETA is one of focus. Instead of trying to educate people how to ethically treat animals as pets and food sources, they've gone too far into "never touch an animal in any way ever." Ethical pet owners should spay or neuter their pets, removing the chance of unwanted pregnancies and unwanted animals. Ethical breeders should breed mutts, who are healthier all around than any so-called purebreds.

Ethical meat eaters should reduce their consumption so as to reduce the land and water (and waste generated) by breeders, cattlemen, and slaughterhouses. Ethical slaughterhouses should reduce waste, reduce contamination of ground and drinking water, have clean and spacious feed lots, and ensure the safety of their employees and (largely undocumented) contract workers.

That should be PETA's focus, in my opinion. And they should be straightforward about their euthanization practices. Just tell the public they're euthanizing most animals they receive because pet owners are not being ethical in their treatment of their own pets. If people want PETA to stop euthanizing animals, PETA should say publicly that pet owners need to stop breeding more animals than can be placed.

 

[William Parcher]

I'm still wondering where left wing/right wing came into the discussion at all.

It's in the third sentence of the OP.

 

[snorfox]

I remember being young enough that I believed being "right" about something meant that the person or group that was "wrong" would change their ways.

Good work kiddo. You're a skilled writer and that does count for something.

That’s right. I sent this to them and they’re being a bunch of cowards for about 3 weeks now. Can’t build up the nerve to answer my letter


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[snorfox]

It is a solid alternative hypothesis to suggest that an adult may have helped with the letter.



But even what was written in the post (not in the letter) suggests a very advanced 14 year old.







That is typical 14 year old writing? No, it isn't. That is advanced.

To be brutally honest I did this myself. I grew up reading books and cherishing them. My parents are South Asian and are not into such topics. Seems mundane to them


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[snorfox]

Da nada. Don't worry about it.

Fine by me. I am 50 I have no objection to you having your say.

Yes, this is one of the known oddities about PETA. It is a deeply cynical behaviour, but you are correct in every respect.

Ah. Some (but not all) vegans have a religious devotion to Veganism. Not all Vegans are like that, although PETA is.
You have both correct. They are what is called strawman arguments. They are not remotely connected to the claims.

Dog is a standard dish in many parts of East Asia. The western revulsion at eating dog is cultural more than anything else.
Yup, they are serious. That is different to being taken seriously. There still exist some actual supremacist nations, sure. The overwhelming majority are not.

Of course you would. And me. And anybody with a modicum of empathy. Seems to me like a daft question for PETA to chuck.

Yeah. I had the very same WTF? reaction.

And thus the game is revealed. Answering "yes" to even one of the poorly formulated questions must therefore mean you are a vegan. Colour me surprised.

Yes, that is particularly insidious.

So far you get the benefit of any doubt that might exist. To be fair I don't think any doubt exists.

Yup, they are out there with there beliefs.

Is it not interesting that he states that he wont do it but encourages others?
Absolutely not. As far as I can determine from their behaviours, they are no more than yet another terrorist group advocating violence.




Simple work around.

Type the citation as a borked link

Eg. www(dot)someplace(dot)com One of us will fix it right up. You will not be breaking any rules.

Thanks! For the lesson and the tips . Will implement it


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[William Parcher]

That’s right. I sent this to them and their being a bunch of cowards for about 3 weeks now. Can’t build up the nerve to answer my letter

This word is spelled they're.

 

[snorfox]

I'm curious about your use of this term.



Are your own politics right-wing, or not left-wing?

I did a Political Quiz for Civics class using VoteCompass and the closest party to me are the Liberals. However, they’re not really close on a scale spectrum of 1-10, 1 being absolute left and 10 being absolute right I am probably a 3 or 4.

P.S. I live in Canada so these parties might differ from yours.

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[snorfox]

This word is spelled they're.

So I guess I’m human


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[snorfox]

Note before you read : This is my first post and I am only 14 years old so please forgive my brevity. Also, you can criticize me. I don’t have left-wing journalists to defend me like Greta Thunberg

My name is Aadil and Im 14 years old. Not old enough to pay taxes but old enough to say…

Your organization is hypocritical.

One of your main missions is to help animals, correct? PETA stands for “People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals”.

At the same time you’re saying this, you are also euthanizing, also known as killing, 80 percent of the animals you take in.[1]

This is so much that you can’t lawfully call yourself an animal shelter. You’re a euthanization clinic. Tell me, knowing this, if I or anyone else would really support an organization who kills thousands of animals a year.

You also try to spread misinformation. In this article here, 45 Signs You're a Vegan and Just Don't Know It Yet | PETA [2] , the writer tries to convince you you’re a vegan by answering a couple questions. Such as:

Would you sometimes hang out with animals rather than people?
How does this make someone a vegan? Because you like animals? I’d sincerely like to know.

Are you a feminist?
How is this in any way relevant to veganism? They’re two completely different topics.

Would you refuse to eat your dog?
Show me one person who wouldn’t refuse to eat their dog.

Do you support oppressed communities and recognize that supremacist viewpoints are whack?
Seriously?

Would you help a dog left in a hot car?
Just because I would help an animal that’s slowly suffering and dying doesn’t mean I won’t eat meat from a farm. And yes, my family gets meat from local farms.

Did your childhood BFF’s include your stuffed animals?
What?

Then at the end, you say this:
Not answering yes to half, or 1/3, answering yes to any of them.

Also you make pamphlets that are promoted to children [3]

Some of you might be thinking this is fake and made by someone else, but it’s not.

PETA's Comic for Kids Takes Aim at Dads Who Fish | PETA [4]

From PETA’s official website, talking about how your Daddy kills animals.

you also promote violence against people, as well as killing animals.

Here’s a direct quote from PETA’s campaign manager.

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course, we're going to be blowing things up and smashing windows. For the record, I don't do this stuff, but I advocate it. I think it's a great way to bring about animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, the atrocities."

"I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories and the banks who fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through windows. Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."
-- Bruce Friedrich, PETA Campaign Director, Vegan Campaign Coordinator, Animal Rights 2001 Conference, July 2, 2001

I’m sure that there are some people out there that support PETA, but you are highly misinformed.

Be honest with me, do you support them?


P.S. https://www(dot)petakillsanimals.com/
P.S.S. Lots and lots of fake stuff you do → https://www.petakillsanimals(dot)com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/peta_inspection(dot)pdf

Footnotes
[1] https://www.washingtonpost(dot)com/...e4-bea5-b893e7ac3fb3_story.html?noredirect=on
[2]

 

[snorfox]

Can someone delete my previous post before this one and insert the links below into my first/original post with dots?


P.S. https://www(dot)petakillsanimals.com/
P.S.S. Lots and lots of fake stuff you do → https://www.petakillsanimals(dot)com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/peta_inspection(dot)pdf

Footnotes
[1] https://www.washingtonpost(dot)com/...e4-bea5-b893e7ac3fb3_story.html?noredirect=on
[2]
https://www.peta(dot)org/features/am-i-a-vegan/
[3]
https://www.petakillsanimals(dot)com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mommykills(dot)pdf
[4]
https://www.peta(dot)org/features/daddy-kills-animals/





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[William Parcher]

So I guess I’m human

We all are. Also I've noticed that you are now pretty consistently not putting a period on the end of sentences. IMO, you are an extraordinary writer for your age. Your letter to PETA shows outstanding grammer, spelling, punctuation, sentence structure and vocabulary.

...the closest party to me are the Liberals. (I’m Canadian). However, they’re not really close...

Statements inside parentheses are to be placed within a sentence rather than being a sentence. You've never seen anything like what you just wrote in your books.

I almost forgot. Welcome to the ISF!