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Perdicting Earthquakes

Rodney, Could you explain to us exactly how memory works.

Spektator had an ordinarily expected dream after loosing his friend. Since there was nothing extraordinary about this dream he wouldn't have thought much about it for months or years after the event. Then when the memory did come up again, the little detail about the night before/night after got lost and what was a stress induced dream became a paranormal premonition. Even if he did rationally reconstruct the proper order the first few times it came up, the mundane memory would eventually be lost and the extraordinary event would be retained.
 
As a Police Officer, I take witness statements on a daily basis. On almost every occasion, the decription of suspects given by the witnesses, who clearly saw the suspect is wrong in no small way.

I regularly have witnesses state makes, models and colours of cars, which the witnesses say they are "100%" sure about. The majority of times the witnesses are wrong. Not because they didn't see what they saw, but because their memory of it, even within an hour, is false.

This has been verified by looking at the incidents on CCTV recordings, and comparing the witness testimony to the actual recorded event.
 
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Fascinating as this is, Rodney's experience is different from mine, mine different from his (among other things, my journal is an ongoing diary, the vast majority of it dull stuff--want to know what I had for lunch on June 3, 1989?--while I gather his is a record of his dreams). Fair enough, we are different.

However--today's the day! No midwestern bomb attacks were reported at 6:32 A.M. I will check back in after 6:32 P.M. CDT.
 
Drew said he might be a couple of days out, so although today is the day, so is tomorrow and the next day. As was yesterday and the day before.
 
Very handy tool Foolmewunz. It'll certainly be a great help if Drew decides to retrofit his prediction.
 
I thought of that, Reno. But I had wanted to post it a couple of weeks ago to show just how many volcano, earthquake, fire, flood, etc... were going on in a week, and I figure since we've got a fixed point on the clock 06:32 or 18:32 (which would be 12:32 GMT and 00:32 next a.m.), if something doesn't occur in the whole wide world on those minutes I'd surely question my perdicting abilties.
 
I perdict that Drew will continue to perdict things, but only to his family and friends.
 
I have a strong feeling that California will experience an earthquake of magnitude 3 or greater next Wednesday, March 28. I might be off by a day or two, though.

And of course it might be Baja California instead of the U.S. state.

I'm not psychic at all, so let's see how I do here. Oh, by the way, I was sure someone was going to ask me what I had for lunch on June 3, 1989, so I dug up the book that has my journal for '89-mid '91. Alas, I made no entry for June 3, 1989, but June 4, 1989, has one that starts "Our son was born today!" No mention of lunch, though. Let's see...Ah, on Wednesday, June 7, 1989, I brought my wife and son back from the hospital, and for lunch she wanted eggs and toast, so I had some with her.
 
Reno said:
As a Police Officer, I take witness statements on a daily basis. On almost every occasion, the decription of suspects given by the witnesses, who clearly saw the suspect is wrong in no small way.

I regularly have witnesses state makes, models and colours of cars, which the witnesses say they are "100%" sure about. The majority of times the witnesses are wrong. Not because they didn't see what they saw, but because their memory of it, even within an hour, is false.

This has been verified by looking at the incidents on CCTV recordings, and comparing the witness testimony to the actual recorded event.
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And I completely agree with you about eyewitnesses. Again, however, that's not relevant to the issue at hand. If, on the other hand, you can document other accounts of people having seemingly prophetic dreams about significant events in their lives that, in reality, occurred after those events, you'll be on to something.
 
Rodney, the fallability of the human memory is not different when it comes to dreams. Why do you insist that your anecdotal evidence is more powerful than the adecdote given about the dream in the first place?!?!
 
Miss Anthrope said:
Rodney, the fallability of the human memory is not different when it comes to dreams. Why do you insist that your anecdotal evidence is more powerful than the adecdote given about the dream in the first place?!?!
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Maybe because no one can seem to find any documented cases similar to Spektator's?
 
Rodney said:
Maybe because no one can seem to find any documented cases similar to Spektator's?
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So, unless we find evidence that memory is faulty precisely when it comes to dreams occuring immediately before/after a traumatic event, any evidence that memory is faulty in various situations - including when related to traumatic events - ought to be discarded and your anecdote should trump Spektator's anecdote? :confused:
 
I received an email suggesting that I look up a well-known ghost story from the nineteenth century which parallels what happened to me--someone thought he had a dream about a dying man the night he was dying, but later discovered his dream came much later. I'll have to look in the University library to see if I can find a book with the information in it. If I do, I promise to post the cite here.
 
First, thank you, lurker, for alerting me to this story. Second--man, I love librarians! I emailed one at the university library explaining what I was looking for, and I just found that she has faxed me the relevant chapter!

So: From Daniel Cohen, The Encyclopedia of Ghosts, NY: Dorset Press, 1984, pp. 53-58, "The Ghost and the Judge."

To summarize, in Shanghai on the night of January 19, 1875, Sir Edward Hornby, Chief Judge of the Consular Court of China and Japan, dreamed that a court reporter came into his room and asked for a summary of his decision in a court case that had been settled that day. Angry at being disturbed in the middle of the night, Sir Edward ordered the man out, and as the reporter left, he said, "This is the last time I shall see you." The next morning, Sir Edward learned the man had died at the same time Sir Edward had the dream.

Sir Edward told the story frequently, and it made its way into accounts of psychic phenomena; however, Frederick Balfour, who was familiar with Shanghai, researched the case and discovered that the reporter did not die at night, but between eight and nine in the morning of January 20; and the case that the "ghost" asked Sir Edward about was decided three months later. The article concludes,
<Sir Edward> was astonished....he agreed that his "vision" of the dead reporter must have come some three months after the death, not on the same night. But he insisted that he had not fabricated the story but told it exactly as he remembered it.
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The story had other discrepancies: Sir Edward remembered his wife was asleep in the next room, but as it turned out, his wife had died some two years before. Sir Edward expressed his amazement at how wrong his memories were, even as he insisted that he had not intended to mislead, but had told the story exactly as he thought it had happened.

I think that's a pretty fair parallel to my situation: vivid dream, remembered in detail, but "backdated" by a faulty memory.

I will not ask Rodney to cite sources that say prophetic or apparition dreams are never misremembered. I think we've spent long enough on this sidetrack.

Thank you again, lurker!
 
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I do have some dates that I pulled out of my head a couple months ago. But I'm not sure what it is that's suppose to happen. Doesn't feel like an earthquake. For whatever reason it feels as if the next date coming up will be a lead in to another event happening on a date almost a month away from that one. I'm a little leary about posting the date here. Not like it really means much if I don't have an event to go with it. But here it is...March 21st and then April 19th. I got these dates a little over 3 months ago. So if they do happen I'm really interested to see how off I might be because the last prediction I made that was a month out was off by 24 hours.

I know the people on this forum are going to tear this apart because I don't have an event to go with this dates. But you asked so I'm telling you. If I have an idea of what it is before it happens I'll post it here so there's a record of it.
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I saw no news about significant earthquake activity yesterday, Drew. Did you?
 
Tricky, Drew did not predict an earthquake for March 21st. He perdicted an attack on US soil using bombs. If you read my posts in this thread, you'll see I updated Drew's perdiction as he added more information. His most recent addition was that he might be a couple of days out. If no attack using a bomb happens in one of the 'middle' states of the USA by tomorrow, Drew's perdiction was wrong.
 
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I wish to correct an error in my posting about the chapter from the Encyclopedia of Ghosts book (I was up very late last night, and I read the faxed pages too rapidly, I guess). The name of the judge was not Sir Edward Hornby, but Sir Edmund Hornby. I admit the mistake and apologize for it!

Edited to add: I found a short account of the judge's misremembered apparition online at http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-154238676.html. It agrees with the article in the Cohen book.
 
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