PC vs MAC

[CFLarsen]

And no users of old PCs who face similar problems? No? Well, probably not - if you haven't updated your computer since 1995, you probably don't spend much time sharing files with other people. But this applies to Macs too, y'know...

Naturally.

None, then?

I don't see the importance.

Then answer the question. Do you have any firsthand experience for the strawman argument you are tossing about?

I don't understand why this is important. Please explain.

Thing is, there are absolutely NO software suites in any function for either PC or MAC that do not allow you to save in a format openable by the other.

Did I say otherwise?

 

[Ducky]

I don't understand why this is important. Please explain.

Answer the question and stop evading Claus.

Did I say otherwise?

Right here:

Sure. But if the vast majority uses X, and you choose to use Y which is incompatible with X, then you are not going to get a lot of business.

So what is incompatible? What files have you recieved from a mac user you couldn't open? What software suite can you name on the mac that cannot save in a compatible format for pc users?

Stop evading Claus, and answer the f***ing question.

 

[Ducky]

THe Larsen list for Claus in this thread is:

1)So what is incompatible?

2)What files have you recieved from a mac user you couldn't open?

3)What software suite can you name on the mac that cannot save in a compatible format for pc users?



I'll add more as he refuses to answer them.

 

[CFLarsen]

Right here:

I don't say anything about it being impossible. You are reading way too much into it.

So what is incompatible? What files have you recieved from a mac user you couldn't open? What software suite can you name on the mac that cannot save in a compatible format for pc users?

Stop evading Claus, and answer the f***ing question.

I'm not evading. But your questions have nothing to do with what I actually say.

 

[Ducky]

I don't say anything about it being impossible. You are reading way too much into it.

Excuse me, but did you not say "incompatible"? Did you not use that word?

I'm not evading. But your questions have nothing to do with what I actually say.

Then answer the question.

 

[CFLarsen]

Excuse me, but did you not say "incompatible"? Did you not use that word?

Obviously. So?

 

[Ducky]

Obviously. So?

Evasion noted. But ok, I'll explain it for you since you don't seem to understand:

Your argument above regarding compatablity assumes that in some way Macs are incompatible with Microsoft products. I am asking you to name in what way. Therefore my questions are directly relating to your statement.

Here, I'll quote it again to remind you:

Sure. But if the vast majority uses X, and you choose to use Y which is incompatible with X, then you are not going to get a lot of business.

So to reiterate, here is your Larsen list:

1)So what is incompatible?

2)What files have you recieved from a mac user you couldn't open?

3)What software suite can you name on the mac that cannot save in a compatible format for pc users?

 

[CFLarsen]

Evasion noted. But ok, I'll explain it for you since you don't seem to understand:

Your argument above regarding compatablity assumes that in some way Macs are incompatible with Microsoft products. I am asking you to name in what way. Therefore my questions are directly relating to your statement.

I still don't get you. Since when does "incompatible" mean "impossible"?

 

[Ducky]

I still don't get you. Since when does "incompatible" mean "impossible"?

Playing word games to avoid answering the question?

in·com·pat·i·ble [in-kuhm-pat-uh-buhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. not compatible; unable to exist together in harmony: She asked for a divorce because they were utterly incompatible.
2. contrary or opposed in character; discordant: incompatible colors.
3. that cannot coexist or be conjoined.
4. Logic. a. (of two or more propositions) unable to be true simultaneously.
b. (of two or more attributes of an object) unable to belong to the object simultaneously; inconsistent.

5. (of positions, functions, ranks, etc.) unable to be held simultaneously by one person.
6. Medicine/Medical. of or pertaining to biological substances that interfere with one another physiologically, as different types of blood in a transfusion.
7. Pharmacology. of or pertaining to drugs that interfere with one another chemically or physiologically and therefore cannot be mixed or prescribed together.

–noun 8. Usually, incompatibles. incompatible persons or things.
9. an incompatible drug or the like.
10. incompatibles, Logic. a. two or more propositions that cannot be true simultaneously.
b. two or more attributes that cannot simultaneously belong to the same object

ETA: I didn't say you said impossible, nor am I asking you impossible. I am addressing your use of the word incompatible.


Once again:

1)So what is incompatible?

2)What files have you recieved from a mac user you couldn't open?

3)What software suite can you name on the mac that cannot save in a compatible format for pc users?

 

[CFLarsen]

Oh, dear. I think I see the problem: You have a much to rigid understanding of what "incompatible" means in the IT world, especially when it comes to formats.

It doesn't mean impossible to read. It means that you can't get a 100% correct conversion.

Now, you can't run a Mac program on a Windows platform just like that. However, you can move data from one platform from another. But that does not mean that a Windows program can understand a format on a Mac. And it certainly doesn't mean that a Windows program can understand a format on a Mac 100%.

 

[Ducky]

Oh, dear. I think I see the problem: You have a much to rigid understanding of what "incompatible" means in the IT world, especially when it comes to formats.

Oh dear, I think I see the condescention. I have been an IT professional for over 10 years. Fowlsound productions runs on money garnered from day jobs as an IT professional. ETA: Or is my MCSE not enough of a qualifying factor for me to understand IT?

It doesn't mean impossible to read. It means that you can't get a 100% correct conversion.

So what programs cannot save in a native word document format that translates 100% accurate to a PC? Please show me an example of this.

Now, you can't run a Mac program on a Windows platform just like that. However, you can move data from one platform from another. But that does not mean that a Windows program can understand a format on a Mac. And it certainly doesn't mean that a Windows program can understand a format on a Mac 100%.

But you can run a Windows program on a mac platform using Parallels, or Fusion. And you can dual boot a mac with Windows. I am not talking about a Windows program not understanding a MAC format, I am saying Mac suites natively save in Microsoft format, and if that's not enough, you can run the native microsoft program right there on the mac. (ETA: You do know you can buy Microsoft Office for the Mac, right?)

now, Please answer the questions:

1)So what is incompatible?

2)What files have you recieved from a mac user you couldn't open?

3)What software suite can you name on the mac that cannot save in a compatible format for pc users?

 

[CFLarsen]

Oh dear, I think I see the condescention. I have been an IT professional for over 10 years. Fowlsound productions runs on money garnered from day jobs as an IT professional. ETA: Or is my MCSE not enough of a qualifying factor for me to understand IT?

How about me having 20 years?

So what programs cannot save in a native word document format that translates 100% accurate to a PC? Please show me an example of this.

Who said anything about it having to be a word document?

But you can run a Windows program on a mac platform using Parallels, or Fusion. And you can dual boot a mac with Windows. I am not talking about a Windows program not understanding a MAC format, I am saying Mac suites natively save in Microsoft format, and if that's not enough, you can run the native microsoft program right there on the mac. (ETA: You do know you can buy Microsoft Office for the Mac, right?)

Again, that has nothing to do with what I am saying.

 

[Ducky]

How about me having 20 years?

You didn't make this about your 20 years, you condescendingly said I didn't understand the profession in which I work. I don't care if you have 40 years, it has no bearing. Answer the questions.

Who said anything about it having to be a word document?

You did in the Macworld expo thread, I was using it as an example. Answer the questions.

Again, that has nothing to do with what I am saying.

Answer the questions.

 

[geni]

With the right software there is very little you can't open on a PC.

Sure there is stuff you will have a hard time opening on a windows PC (I only know one way to open .ogg Theora files on a widows system) but MAC stuff there shouldn't be a problem.

 

[geni]

So what programs cannot save in a native word document format that translates 100% accurate to a PC? Please show me an example of this.

I've seen open office get thrown by tables in word documents

 

[CFLarsen]

You didn't make this about your 20 years, you condescendingly said I didn't understand the profession in which I work. I don't care if you have 40 years, it has no bearing. Answer the questions.

If you point to your 10 years in the business as a reason for you to understand this, then I can point to my 20 years.

You are the one bringing it up, not me.

You did in the Macworld expo thread, I was using it as an example.

I pointed to it as an example. I didn't say it had to be Word. You are way overinterpreting what I say.

 

[Ducky]

If you point to your 10 years in the business as a reason for you to understand this, then I can point to my 20 years.

You are the one bringing it up, not me.

Sorry you brought it up with the assumption I didn't understand. Answer the questions.

I pointed to it as an example. I didn't say it had to be Word. You are way overinterpreting what I say.

And I am simply quoting what you said. I am asking you to provide answers to the questions on the Larson list for you in this thread to avoid interpretation. Answer the questions.


1)So what is incompatible?

2)What files have you recieved from a mac user you couldn't open?

3)What software suite can you name on the mac that cannot save in a compatible format for pc users?

 

[CFLarsen]

You insist on overinterpreting what I say. It is futile and a waste of time to continue.

 

[Ducky]

I've seen open office get thrown by tables in word documents

Not if you use Office for mac, or format in specific ways. Again that problem as I have ever seen it was simply a matter of using the software in a way different than the user had.


ETA: Also I have been using NeoOffice and Pages (iWork) for quite a long time and never had a problem with tables.

 

[Ducky]

You insist on overinterpreting what I say. It is futile and a waste of time to continue.

I am asking you these questions to elaborate on what you mean, how can that be overinterpreting? I am asking you these questions on direct quotes from your posts.

I will asume now that you refuse to answer the questions. Since you refuse to answer the questions I will now conclude that you refuse to admit you could possibly have been wrong.