Passing Peak Trump?

Belz... said:
Can they be linked to a name? Is that name recorded?
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A phone number can be linked to a name, quite easily.
If it is an old land line, it can be linked to an address as well- also quite easily.
It is also possible to link them in revers order- a name can be linked to a phone number, an address to a name, etc...

WRT the questions. Are ones' political intentions personal?, or not?
 
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Personal information and personally identifying information aren't the same thing. Is the assumption that the issue is concern over the data governance of the polling organization? I had assumed it was more about people giving answers to pollsters that they thought would be socially acceptable to the pollsters, plus a bit of distrust in the news media ecosystem that pollsters are a part of... so why take part in the poll?
 
shuttlt said:
so why take part in the poll?
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Because Distracted1 for some reason* really, really needs a lot of people lying to pollsters instead of just hanging up.

* I can think about only one reason - to explain away polls unfavorable to his Fuhrer. Silent majority and all of that drivel.
 
My point was that trolling the polls, not lying exactly, is something I can imagine... enough Trump supporters (no I can't put some "This account for exactly X percent of the motivation of Y percent of Trump supporters as outlined in this chart here..." number on it.) doing so it might make a difference.

One of the biggest problems is dealing with Trump has always been how many of supporters are supporting him in some.... err sideways fashion I guess you could call it. There's like no single term for it but if you account for people doing it ironically, doing it for effect, doing to troll the libs, doing to prove some nihilistic point about nothing mattering, people doing to to make "The government doesn't work" a self fulfilling prophecy, doing it as a joke, people who think Trump is a joke but they are in on the joke, people who think Trump is a joke but they are above the joke, and all that related frippery you've got a fairly substantial number. Probably nearly as big or bigger than whatever we could call Trump's "honest" support base.

With mainstream candidates the distinction their supporters and their voters is usually pretty much non existent. With Trump.. I'm not sure. I think, and everyone has to respect that the language will have to be a little sloppy here, people are going to vote for Trump who don't support him (in the traditional political sense) in meaningful numbers is more likely with Trump then it is for most any other politician.

For instance any poll worded in such a way as to ask "Is Trump making X better" is immediately suspect in my mind since "We didn't elect him to make things better" is such an open secret among his base. He's a troll. Making things better isn't his job.

Again nothing would make that part of Trump's base happier than Trump winning after the Liberals had again talked themselves into him having no chance. That's probably their favorite possible narrative so I'm... just wary of it. That's all.
 
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Belz... said:
Amazing. You've already lost track of the discussion. When I ask you to re-read the post, you might want to read what it was responding to as well. :rolleyes:
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Just dense I guess.

We are discussing answering the questions of someone claiming to be a political pollster over the telephone, and why someone might lie to that person about something as personal as who they are planning to vote for.

Your question was "can they be linked to a name?"
well, since the responses are given over the telephone, they certainly can.

If you meant something else, please clarify.
 
Distracted1 said:
Just dense I guess.

We are discussing answering the questions of someone claiming to be a political pollster over the telephone, and why someone might lie to that person about something as personal as who they are planning to vote for.

Your question was "can they be linked to a name?"
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My other question was "Is that name recorded?", but I guess you're going to go back to not understanding what "they" refers to now.
 
I'm still very unclear as to the point trying to be made.

Is the argument being made that there are enough people who think that pollsters who called them are trying to scam them AND will lie to to pollster to prevent the scam rather than just hang up AND such people are heavily weighted towards one candidate that it would make a significant error in polling?
 
Belz... said:
My other question was "Is that name recorded?", but I guess you're going to go back to not understanding what "they" refers to now.
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Is that name recorded?
Recorded by whom? The person asking the questions over the phone, I guess?
Certainly, the name can be written down, stored in a database, etc.. cross referenced with the answers to the questions asked.
That truly seems self-evident, which is why I am having a hard time groking your question.
 
bonzombiekitty said:
I'm still very unclear as to the point trying to be made.

Is the argument being made that there are enough people who think that pollsters who called them are trying to scam them AND will lie to to pollster to prevent the scam rather than just hang up AND such people are heavily weighted towards one candidate that it would make a significant error in polling?
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That's the way that I interpret it, that Trump supporters won't hang up, but will lie whereas Democrats wouldn't lie or hang up.
 
Belz... said:
Ok now you're clearly playing games.

Have fun with that.
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I truly do not understand what you are asking me.

If it is not: Can the expressed political opinions of someone answering questions over the telephone be linked to a name, and that name be recorded?.
I do not know what it is.

I have asked for clarification in good faith.
 
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