Passing Peak Trump?

Distracted1 said:
If one fears that they are in an environment wherein certain political viewpoints are goodthink, and others badthink, they might choose to give the answer that indicates they are in the goodthink cohort.
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Yep, and they do the same at the ballot box.

The vast majority of voters will always vote for 'their' party, no matter what opinion they might have expressed about it beforehand - simply out fear. The vote itself might be secret, but if they vote for the 'other' party they have to lie about it to their peers. This is particularly disturbing if the 'other' party wins. Not only are you a liar, but also a traitor! And they can probably tell that you are lying...

Pollsters OTOH, who cares? It's much easier to unload your real feelings onto an anonymous stranger who doesn't care what you think and won't be tittle-tattling about it.

That's the problem with polls. The question they should be asking is - "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party democrat?"
 
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Roger Ramjets said:
Yep, and they do the same at the ballot box.

The vast majority of voters will always vote for 'their' party, no matter what opinion they might have expressed about it beforehand - simply out fear. The vote itself might be secret, but if they vote for the 'other' party they have to lie about it to their peers. This is particularly disturbing if the 'other' party wins. Not only are you a liar, but also a traitor! And they can probably tell that you are lying...

Pollsters OTOH, who cares? It's much easier to unload your real feelings onto an anonymous stranger who doesn't care what you think and won't be tittle-tattling about it.

That's the problem with polls. The question they should be asking is - "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party democrat?"
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That's why polls in North Korea show such a high approval rating for Kim?

Hyperbole aside, though. you are probably correct. It is always best to act as if the person on the other end of the phone is exactly who they say they are.
 
Distracted1 said:
That's why polls in North Korea show such a high approval rating for Kim?

Hyperbole aside, though. you are probably correct. It is always best to act as if the person on the other end of the phone is exactly who they say they are.
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Yes your Lordship Ndugu. Where again is your address in Nigeria?
 
I've been convinced. Pollsters are really members of the Deep State out to discover who people plan on voting for so they can report them to their employers or otherwise harm them in some way. :rolleyes:

Seriously, is paranoia a requirement to be a Republican these days? It used to be only a suggestion.
 
Stacyhs said:
I've been convinced. Pollsters are really members of the Deep State out to discover who people plan on voting for so they can report them to their employers or otherwise harm them in some way. :rolleyes:

Seriously, is paranoia a requirement to be a Republican these days? It used to be only a suggestion.
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Does that indicate that suspecting that the stranger on the other end of the telephone, who is asking for personal information, may be someone other than they are claiming, is paranoia?
In spite of numerous examples of that exact thing?
 
Distracted1 said:
Does that indicate that suspecting that the stranger on the other end of the telephone, who is asking for personal information, may be someone other than they are claiming, is paranoia?
In spite of numerous examples of that exact thing?
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Pollsters don't ask for personal information. Scammers looking for credit card/bank account/social security numbers do.
 
Distracted1 said:
Who one plans to vote for is personal.
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Sure if words don't mean anything.

Which at this point they don't. They are right up there with facts.

By your "logic" anyone ever asking you anything in any context is them trying to get personal information out of you.
 
Distracted1 said:
Who one plans to vote for is personal.

Also, you have sidestepped the question. A person on the other end of the telephone claiming to be a pollster is always a pollster, right?
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Stop playing word games. We're talking about identifying information: name, address, etc.

'Always' is a very limiting word. Very little in life is always "always". Are the vast majority of pollsters really pollsters? I think so. A scammer wants financial info, not who you're going to vote for. They'll pose as the IRS, a Nigerian prince, a collection agency, etc. Not a political pollster.

Remember that this convo started out by a claim that Trump voters lied about who they would vote for out of embarrassment, not fear of harm or being scammed.
 
varwoche said:
Why is 538 just now adding adding polls from 2018?
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//Wild guess//

For comparison, but they aren't formatting it in a way that makes that clear?

Although there's not really much comparison to be made with 2018, 2016 would make more sense for that.

Maybe it's just a simple formatting or uploading error?
 
JoeMorgue said:
//Wild guess//

For comparison, but they aren't formatting it in a way that makes that clear?

Although there's not really much comparison to be made with 2018, 2016 would make more sense for that.

Maybe it's just a simple formatting or uploading error?
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It might be data they found that just gets fed into the predictive models.
 
Please refrain from personalising your posts.
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Depending on what Trump will do while being "lame duck" (there is nothing lame in degenerate nutter that has nothing to lose), peak Trump may happen in this time.
 
I'm still expecting a Henry II moment: "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"

But less eloquent.
 
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