Passing Peak Trump?

Safe-Keeper said:
Isn't there also the possiblity of Mueller or others digging up something so incriminating that he loses popularity or is even impeached?
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There's a long list of possible reasons why Trump will not serve another term, and you'd want long odds to bet on any specific one of them, but when you add them up...
 
Again until the list of reasons Trump can't possibly serve another term is longer or indeed even functionally different from the list of reasons Trump couldn't possibly have been elected in the first place, I'm not impressed.

Now to be clear I do think Trump has much less chance of getting a second term (or indeed even getting to a second term) but the Democrat's "Oh he's a joke, we've got this in the bag, look at all these reasons I'm right" mentality is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Again until the list of reasons Trump can't possibly serve another term is longer or indeed even functionally different from the list of reasons Trump couldn't possibly have been elected in the first place, I'm not impressed.

Now to be clear I do think Trump has much less chance of getting a second term (or indeed even getting to a second term) but the Democrat's "Oh he's a joke, we've got this in the bag, look at all these reasons I'm right" mentality is exactly what got us into this mess in the first place.
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Fortunately, that's not what's happening. The weekend before the 4th of July, there were about 750 demonstrations across the country, mainly to protest Trump's family separation policy but there was also a very successful voter registration drive. Neither got a lot of media attention, but what it means is that there are intensive grass-roots organization and mobilization efforts underway. I hope Republicans keep ignoring it.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Fortunately, that's not what's happening. The weekend before the 4th of July, there were about 750 demonstrations across the country, mainly to protest Trump's family separation policy but there was also a very successful voter registration drive. Neither got a lot of media attention, but what it means is that there are intensive grass-roots organization and mobilization efforts underway. I hope Republicans keep ignoring it.
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Yeah, people seem to have learned from both Trump's victory and Brexit. They know they have to actually vote now. That alone is probably going to make a difference.

Still crossing my fingers, though :covereyes: .
 
Okay at not one point in modern American history has "Looki tall this passion and protesting" actually lead to higher vote turnout, but this time will be different. Sure let's count on that.

Voter turnout will be between 55 and 60 percent, probably closer to 55, in 2020. The midterm will be between 40 and 50, probably closer to 40.

As always "Didn't vote" will remain the uncontested champion of every election in the US.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Impeachment aside, you still believe Trump will win re-election?

No way.
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Yes, Trump can be re-elected. The Democrats have to walk a fine line. They need a real primary process, one without a predetermined outcome but not so rough the candidate is damaged goods going into the convention. They're going to really have to work on getting out the Obama voters who stayed home and the lesser of two evils voters who held their nose and voted for Trump.


If Democrats don't have proper respect for Trump and his Russian allies, yes they can lose 2020.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Okay at not one point in modern American history has "Looki tall this passion and protesting" actually lead to higher vote turnout, but this time will be different. Sure let's count on that.

Voter turnout will be between 55 and 60 percent, probably closer to 55, in 2020. The midterm will be between 40 and 50, probably closer to 40.

As always "Didn't vote" will remain the uncontested champion of every election in the US.
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I really don't see why you think Democrats are just "counting" on it happening all by itself, or why you think people will be so apathetic about what's happening.
 
What happened with hgc? (I can't do a name search because he stupidly made his handle three characters. His last post almost three years ago.)
 
There may have been some jobs issue in 2016. The coal jobs are never coming back to a great extent. The general message to low income voters was that Trump was going to give the jobs. Cappy jobs. Hillary offered community college and careers. They just wanted the crappy jobs.

Tax cut has been disappointing for them. Only the hatred of all government will bring those same vorers out 2020.

America gets tired of politicians quickly. 6 years ok, but they are tired of all presidents soonafter that.
 
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