Passing Peak Trump?

The Don said:
Most of the electorate don't unless prompted. I see Trump's current difficulties being forgotten in a month or so.
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In a month or so he will have a cart load of new insults and lunacy for us.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
I think that stuck. Before then I'd hear people say that Trump was just pulling a fast one on the GOP; that he didn't really believe his own hateful rhetoric. I haven't heard that much since. He really alienated a lot of the undecided.
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Did he really though ?

His post-convention bounce put him past Hillary in most (all ?) polls which to me indicated that there were either still plenty of undecideds willing to swing to Trump or that a proportion of the undecideds were GOP/Trump supporters.

Sure he alienated the majority of Hispanics (but he's still pulling a non-trivial minority) and the black vote is a lost cause but he was still getting a lot of support.
 
I'm doubtful but there is always the possibility a bombshell could be dropped with Clinton and all the issues that the opposition repeats including but not limited to the Bengazi and the email servers or something else. The key for Trump will be stop responding to every criticism no matter how small the criticism. I just don't think he can do this.

And just for clarification, I'm not Trump supporter and lament him becoming president as much as most but I have to be real and face the fact that there are serious flaws with Hillary. I also will not feel comfortable that no scandal involving Hillary will break until November 8.
 
seayakin said:
I'm doubtful but there is always the possibility a bombshell could be dropped with Clinton and all the issues that the opposition repeats including but not limited to the Bengazi and the email servers or something else. The key for Trump will be stop responding to every criticism no matter how small the criticism. I just don't think he can do this.

And just for clarification, I'm not Trump supporter and lament him becoming president as much as most but I have to be real and face the fact that there are serious flaws with Hillary. I also will not feel comfortable that no scandal involving Hillary will break until November 8.
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For better and/or for worse, Clinton is semi inoculated by all the past scandals, real and imagined. It's become white noise.
 
varwoche said:
For better and/or for worse, Clinton is semi inoculated by all the past scandals, real and imagined. It's become white noise.
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I did not think about the white noise. In any case, of any candidate, it is hard to imagine anything new could be brought up against Hillary given how much she has been investigated.

I'm still a nervous pessimist.
 
I think that as this campaign proceeds we will be seeing and hearing less and less from Mr. Trump.
The running of his campaign will be done by Pence and hirelings- who will spend all their time blasting Hillary. It may be that even Mr. Trump himself is beginning to see how repugnant he is in the eyes of the electorate- even if for his ego's sake he needs to view it as unfair press.
 
The Don said:
Did he really though ?

His post-convention bounce put him past Hillary in most (all ?) polls which to me indicated that there were either still plenty of undecideds willing to swing to Trump or that a proportion of the undecideds were GOP/Trump supporters.

Sure he alienated the majority of Hispanics (but he's still pulling a non-trivial minority) and the black vote is a lost cause but he was still getting a lot of support.
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I don't put much stock in polls; I prefer to stick with damned lies. The rhetoric noticeably died down, or changed, in response to the judge debacle. I stopped hearing about how it was all an act.

The "Bernie or Bust" crowd used to be "Bernie or Trump," remember that? It wasn't people trying to throw the election, the idea was that if the outsider with the good ideas couldn't win, better to go with the complete unknown who probably wouldn't be terrible, than the face of the status quo. But then he goes full racist at the next minor public official who slights him, and the status quo started looking a whole lot better.
 
seayakin said:
I did not think about the white noise. In any case, of any candidate, it is hard to imagine anything new could be brought up against Hillary given how much she has been investigated.

I'm still a nervous pessimist.
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In this post-factual age, it doesn't even need to have any kind of basis in fact.

A few days before the election, make it known that Hillary and/or Bill are suspected of the worst kinds of crimes against children. Hit the news cycle hard.

If the Democratic Party rush to defend the Clintons then that acknowledges the claims, if not then why aren't they being defended.

Release it in the most disreputable right wing sites, report on the "claims" on FOX news with a huge exclusive (staying just the right side of the libel laws) which will compel the other networks to report on it too.
 
The Don said:
In this post-factual age, it doesn't even need to have any kind of basis in fact.

A few days before the election, make it known that Hillary and/or Bill are suspected of the worst kinds of crimes against children. Hit the news cycle hard.

If the Democratic Party rush to defend the Clintons then that acknowledges the claims, if not then why aren't they being defended.

Release it in the most disreputable right wing sites, report on the "claims" on FOX news with a huge exclusive (staying just the right side of the libel laws) which will compel the other networks to report on it too.
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I don't think so. You can only go to that well so often. Keep in mind that the Clintons over the years have been accused of incredibly outrageous things. For years, there was a website called the Clinton body count where they were accused of killing more than 90 people including their friends and I think Elvis.

The public has grown so accustomed to hearing phoney outrageous accusations, their reaction will be. Suuuure and roll their eyes.:rolleyes:
 
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acbytesla said:
I don't think so. You can only go to that well so often. Keep in mind that the Clintons over the years have been accused of incredibly outrageous things. For years, there was a website called the Clinton body count where they were accused of killing more than 90 people including their friends and I think Elvis.

The public has grown so accustomed to hearing phoney outrageous accusations, their reaction will be. Suuuure and roll their eyes.:rolleyes:
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Trump may only need 1 or 2 percent to turn out to vote who weren't going to or to switch.........

Timed right I think this could just get him across the line...
 
The Don said:
Trump may only need 1 or 2 percent to turn out to vote who weren't going to or to switch.........

Timed right I think this could just get him across the line...
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I refuse to believe that it's this close. He's now added vets and active military to the list of people he's offended. He won't win women, won't win minorities, and won't win sane white men. Hell, at this rate he may not even win INsane white men. Only the hateful, ignorant P.O.S. that is his base.
 
The Don said:
Trump may only need 1 or 2 percent to turn out to vote who weren't going to or to switch.........

Timed right I think this could just get him across the line...
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No, he needs a hell of a lot more than that. It won't come down to 2 points. "Crazy" has a limited shelf life and Trump's way beyond his expiration date.
 
applecorped said:
Has it happened yet?
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We passed peak Trump at the Democratic Convention. I thought we had a rats jumping the ship thread but couldn't find it so I'll just put this here:

Why This Republican Created a PAC to Help Elect Hillary Clinton
Snyder argues that the world is scary, and even scarier with Trump at the helm. As Russia and China become increasingly militarized, and ISIS and North Korea threaten American national security, the prospect of a Trump presidency could be an epic disaster, he argues.

“There are real possibilities out there that could lead to World War III,” he says. “And you gotta ask: who should be at the desk of the commander in chief? It shouldn’t be Donald Trump.”
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On my PBS radio station this morning when asked about all of Clinton's negatives, he said it was a result of decades of partisan attacks and most of it was untrue.
 
The Don said:
... I see Trump's current difficulties being forgotten in a month or so.
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You forget his yuuge personality flaw, he can't help attacking anyone who insults him. The Clinton camp isn't stupid. They know how to trigger his disorder.
 
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The Don said:
I hope you're right but I think that once the dust has settled, the Republican Party core base will decide that they will vote, that they cannot vote for Hillary or a third party candidate and that they will vote the GOP ticket no matter how unappealing the Presidential candidate is.
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But how big is that hard core? And how much more of the edge is going to crumble off?

Trump may be on the teleprompter for a day or so, it is unlikely to last.
 
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