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Pandemic Panic Must Stop
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The Atheist
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NONE!
There is NO level of harm to children that is acceptable to me. There may be a level of harm I might have to tolerate, but that doesn't mean I have to accept it!
NOTE: If you decide to answer DO NOT SNIP OUT THE SECOND SENTENCE ABOVE. It qualifies the first sentence. If you snip it out, then you are being dishonest.
That is superb.
Have a thesaurus, and do note the words in RED*.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/tolerate
* red being the best synonyms.
If you think masks on kids will work, or do any more than slow the spread, you're living in fantasyland again. Try getting five-year-olds to wear a mask all day and see how it goes. Will they eat with them on, too?
(and don't even think about mentioning social distancing, because most NZ schools are barely able to accommodate existing numbers)
No, I dismissed it as being too stupid to respond to,
Yet again, as a white bloke in the second-whitest region in NZ, you wouldn't have any idea that a huge number of kids in Auckland especially, have no access to remote learning.
Oh wait, Cinderella was going to ensure all children had access to devices in 202. How did that go?
Oops, it failed, fancy that!
And yes, I'm sure some privileged families manage to homeschool successfully.
As above, your Pakeha-centric view of society is hilarious, ignoring the reality of thousands of families where there isn't anyone to teach, because both parents must work to put food on the table, often in an English as second language setting.
But you're right, let's protect the white kids and let the brown ones fester in their own ignorance, eh?
You really need to poke your head out of your very limited world view occasionally and consider how those less fortunate are forced to live their lives. Christ, we live in a country where some kids rotate school days because they don't have shoes to go around and you think they can be successfully homeschooled.
And then have the temerity to mention moral repugnance.
GraculusTheGreenBird
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For what is worth, masks on kids work perfectly well, if they are taught how to wear them, and parents/school teachers are willing to lead by example.
We have them on all ages of children here in Hong Kong, its a necessity to enter school premises. They have learned to deal with them, like they learn anything else. Yes, that includes 5 year olds and younger.
They are taken off when eating, and put on again immediately after.
There may well be societal differences there that preclude this, but there is nothing in principle that stops mask wearing for children working, if the masks are available and the will is there.
We have them on all ages of children here in Hong Kong, its a necessity to enter school premises. They have learned to deal with them, like they learn anything else. Yes, that includes 5 year olds and younger.
They are taken off when eating, and put on again immediately after.
There may well be societal differences there that preclude this, but there is nothing in principle that stops mask wearing for children working, if the masks are available and the will is there.
smartcooky
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That is superb.
Have a thesaurus, and do note the words in RED*.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/tolerate
* red being the best synonyms.
I noticed you studiously avoided using a dictionary. What's the matter TA? Couldn't you find a dictionary with a definition that fit your BS narrative? So you used a Thesaurus? That's it isn't it? Bwhahahahaha! Hilarious. So, shall we look up what a Thesaurus actually is? Shall we?
Here, have a dictionary, and do note the words in RED*.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/thesaurus
A thesaurus is a reference book in which words with similar meanings are grouped together
And while you're here, have another dictionary, and again note the words in RED*.
https://www.lexico.com/definition/thesaurus
A book or electronic resource that lists words in groups of synonyms and related concepts.
Now lets clarify what a synonym is. Again note the words in RED*.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/synonym
a word having the same or nearly the same meaning as another in the language
Accepting something is emphatically NOT the same as tolerating it.
I tolerate the idea that some people might be racists, but I certainly do not accept them, or, to put it in terms that you might better understand, I tolerate your opinions on this topic, but I certainly do not accept them.
But if you don't believe me, here, have, have an encyclopedia, and again note the words in RED*.
https://pediaa.com/what-is-the-difference-between-tolerance-and-acceptance/
The difference between tolerance and acceptance
Tolerance is your willingness to endure the existence of opinions or behaviour you dislike or disagree with.
Acceptance, on the other hand, is assenting and embracing someone or something you don't like, without protesting and without trying to change them.
... Thus, this is the difference between tolerance and acceptance.
* Yeah, RED! That's the colour a face turns when a feeble attempt at "gotcha" blows up in it.
Another laughing dog just or fun.
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You know, I think it is time you and I faced up to an important fact, and that is, we see these issues from completely and utterly irreconcilable, polar opposite points of view. We are like a far-right extremist and member of Antifa locked in a confined space. Your views on the expendability of children on the altar of the common good is utterly revolting to me, and a complete anathema the values I was brought up with. I will NOT be changing my standpoint on this ever. I am also 100% certain that you perceive your position to be infallible, and that nothing will ever persuade you question its veracity,
I conclude therefore, that further debate between you and I will be an exercise in sheer futility - I won't be replying to you again.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
This!
Denial of the functionality of masks as a preventive measure the spread of viruses is just pure ignorance.
GraculusTheGreenBird
Muse
I should also point out that in HK people wear masks 100% of the time when in public places, its not just kids. The only time they are taken off is eating or drinking.
You will never see someone on the street or in a shop without one, it just doesn't happen. Its become a universal cultural norm.
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
Laughing at people who do not think that accepting any level of harm to children is ok. You are a sick, sick man, The Atheist.
Again, the thing the Atheist is missing (intentionally at this point) is the fact that society does not exist simply to be holding a perpetual "Who can be worried the most efficiently" competition for his benefit.
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Steve
Penultimate Amazing
Well his posts almost all have the primary purpose of showing us all how clever he thinks he is. The actual subject subject is incidental.
(The forthcoming yellow card is worth it
)The Atheist
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Way to show the paucity of your position, now attempting to disprove something when you got caught with your pants down. Again...
FYI, they have exactly the same meaning in the context you used it. You're merely proving you don't understand what synonyms and context actually are.
Dictionary, you say! Forsooth.
American Dictionary of Heritage
Cambridge Dictionary
But hey, I really enjoy your inability to admit being wrong - I'm sure there's a name for it.
Lucky escape for you, I'd say. I still have a shipload of other dictionaries ready to ram down your throat.
Pathetic
Oh god, there's another one with reading difficulties.
If you read what I actually typed, rather than what you think I typed, I was laughing at SC thinking he was making a point by using two different words.
That mean exactly the same thing.
I don't think children being harmed is ok, but on the other hand, everyone in society accepts and tolerates (yes, that's a deliberate tautology) that harm will happen to children. This is why we allow them to go into the big, wide world, climb trees, cross roads, play with dirty, diseased children, play with knives, light fires, and put things in their mouths that might be toxic and all the other things that happen in childhood to kids that don't have uber-helicopter parents watching them 24 hours a day.
Our kids have walked to school and playgrounds on their own since they were 8 years old.
OMFG!!@21!!! I must be a child murderer. Run over, abducted, bitten by dogs... there are lots of things that could have happened and almost all of them are much more likely to kill than Covid.
This thread has turned out quite nicely - people are being irrational about the harm of Covid in children, while ironically completely ignoring the real harm done by screwing up their education.
One of these days you'll answer the question instead of making inane, irrelevant, and incorrect responses.
It's been bolded several times so I see no need to repeat it.
You could could follow another's lead and flounce out of the thread if you feel incapable of answering it.
Skeptic Ginger
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From what I see kids do just fine with masks, like little troopers.
Your inane "hOw MaNY DeAED CHILDren Is AccEEPTABEL!?" one? Yeah I saw it every time you asked it, laughed, and ignored it which is all the response it deserves.
TragicMonkey
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"Skeptic Ginger applauds use of child soldiers!" No doubt the masks serve dual purposes in both concealing their identities and making it easier to use mustard gas on civilians. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, madam!
smartcooky
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FTFY
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This is tragic: an 11-month-old baby with serious pre-existing conditions is one of NZ's Covid victims, while having influenza at the same time! A certain death sentence.
Did not even need to go to hospital.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/30...optimistic-11monthold-delta-case-will-recover
TurkeysGhost
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It's been interesting to see the continuing doubling down on this attitude as the body count due to the pandemic has grown steadily higher.
Sure, in the early days it was pretty easy to hand-wave away the deaths. A few here, maybe some nursing homes getting wiped out, but they were half dead non-earners so who cares?
As the pandemic started ripping a bloody path throughout society, this pretend rational disinterest has gotten so extreme to be beyond parody. The pontificating on the meaningless of life and death has gotten so absurd it would make brainless freshman philosophy students blush.
The strategic ultra-nihilism is interesting to witness.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
651,000 deaths in the US, its
• Almost one Civil War
• 1½ World War IIs
• 5½ World War Is
• 11 Vietnam Wars
• 18 Korean Wars
• 44 Wars of 1812
• 147 Gulf Wars
• 218 9/11s
Meh, its only 0.2% of the population, so what's the big deal?
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Yeah I seriously thought the "I'm better than you because I don't care about anything" flex was something we all outgrew when we stopped doodling Pentagrams and Linkin Park lyrics in our high school notebooks.
TurkeysGhost
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Conservatives then: It's only a few old people, stop crying
Conservatives now: What is death? What is life? What does it mean to exist? What is consciousness?