Palin speech pulls in $8 million

[BenBurch]

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Do you think that the debates will affect the polls significantly?

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No, McCain has only about 12 more points to lose before he is down to the hard core GOP base who would vote for him if he had two red horns and a pointed tail. So there is not much room for movement.

I cannot see anything changing now unless something MAJOR happens.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Which politicians are writing their own speeches again?

Barack Obama, for one.

 

[Pookster]

"We're up over the previous record and the number is still climbing the more Palin's attacks are covered on cable and network news," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26551384/


Gotta love it!

 

[UserGoogol]

Which would mean McCain won. Which means exactly the same thing.

I'm waiting to see a good, logical and substantive rationale for why this increase in donations should be seen as anything other than people on the left feeling threatend. Why in the world would anyone feel a need to donate if they didn't feel any threat at all?

This really is a helluva spin zone.

There is always a threat. Even if Obama was running against Alan Keyes or some loser again, there would be a threat of him losing; it's rare for things in politics to have probabilities of either zero or one. There are two factors: the probability of Obama losing and the cost of Obama losing. If this speech made the left feel that the latter was higher but they remained constant on the former, then they would be "threatened" but not in such a way that was bad for Obama. (Although if nothing else, Republicans are going to be getting a convention bump out of this, so the probability isn't entirely constant.)

Anyway, a fairly reasonable interpretation of this news is that the speech strengthened both bases, and (unless the Republicans can be far more strengthened and get out the vote accordingly) in the long run that's something that helps Obama, since this year there's more Democrats than Republicans.

 

[Magyar]

I predict that the repugnicans will come out soon and start explaining to us all that the reason this is happening is because of the nanny state. All those poor welfare crack ho's and abortion lovin feminists have all that extra money 'cause they are living off of the rich - ala welfare and having killed their babies have more disposable income then the
honest hard working christians that founded this country.


Application for the $million


edit - I expect that this will come from the likes of Culter, Robertson or some such but it will come.

 

[Policenaut]

Barack Obama, for one.

Yeah he's pretty much the only politician who does and I believe the last one he wrote was the "race" speech. I could be wrong. Either way I am just objecting to people specifically making a point of her not writing the speech, like this was some kind of scandal that politicians always write their own words.

 

[not_so_new]

Yeah he's pretty much the only politician who does and I believe the last one he wrote was the "race" speech. I could be wrong. Either way I am just objecting to people specifically making a point of her not writing the speech, like this was some kind of scandal that politicians always write their own words.

But the counter point is…. if someone else wrote the words and she was supposed to act it out what do we have? Someone else's words and a delivery that is only "good" based on the low expectations going into it.

Look at it with a critical eye. Her delivery was not "knock me out wow" by any means. As I stated someplace else on this form, her voice reminds me of Fran Dresser mixed with a "down home" accent and her attempts at sounding confident when making a dramatic point came of as forced and stilted.

I think she will get better in the delivery department but as of now the thing that was most interesting about this speech where the words she used not the delivery…... and the words were not her words.

 

[anduin]

The bounce in contributions is not surprising. Palin's speech may have come across well to the base, but to everyone else it sounded angry, empty, vindictive and ungracious.

The problem with claiming that you are a pitbull is that not many people like pitbulls.

 

[FaisonMars]

I gave some more money to Obama yesterday to give the campaign the tools to counter the distortions in Palin's speech. I hope that they use it wisely... we haven't seen much fighting back from Obama yet.

I, for one, have to agree with Noonan-- it's over for McCain. Even though she will energize a lot of the base, independents in swing states will consider the scenario of "President Palin" for a second and a half, and then pull the other lever.

We shall see, shant we? The debates are going to be memorable, and should be fun to watch. Do you think that the debates will affect the polls significantly?

Bush lost the debates both in 2000 and 2004 but still won the election, at least in 2004 (sometimes I wish life were more like The West Wing, in which Bartlett's trouncing of Ritchie in the debates led to his re-election).

It's a state-by-state election. Getting out the vote in the swing states will determine who wins, and I think Obama's organization is better on that front.

ETA: Here's my prediction. Palin helps McCain win the western swing states and brings out the evangelicals in southwestern Ohio. McCain wins all his states plus Virginia and Florida (Palin's church says that terrorists acts in Israel is God's retribution for not accepting Jesus as the Messiah.)

Final Electoral College, Obama 304, McCain 234.