Palin, Prophecy, and End-Times

[Puppycow]

Now you are delusional. The politician you like pays "lip service" to religion. The ones you don't like are "true believers".

But the facts do not support your view.

OBAMA:

...some of the thigns I talked about earlier are addressed through, are channeled through my Christian faith and a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
...my pastor is certainly someone who I have an enormous amount of respect for.
...I have an ongoing conversation with God.

Want more?

You can trot out all the professions of religious belief you want. They are entirely consistant with the hypothesis that he's paying lip service to religion.
It's part of being a politician. I am not delusional because I don't claim to really know what anyone's true beliefs are, just what they appear to be.

And notice that I also lumped McCain in with Obama and Clinton as politicians who I suspect may have less religious faith than they profess.

 

[mhaze]

You can trot out all the professions of religious belief you want. They are entirely consistant with the hypothesis that he's paying lip service to religion.
It's part of being a politician. I am not delusional because I don't claim to really know what anyone's true beliefs are, just what they appear to be.

And notice that I also lumped McCain in with Obama and Clinton as politicians who I suspect may have less religious faith than they profess.

Yet the absurd, vain and clumsy lurches of atheist logic may exceed the undeniable hubris of a religious believer. When the atheist applies his personal prejudice and finds his preferred polititions "are only paying lip service to religion" , then further finds that those of the opposing party are dangerous true believers...this only makes the devout atheist look silly.

"One step past Rev. Wright is tinfoil hat territory".

 

[thaiboxerken]

Right.. because the people of the USA would clearly not care if a Presidential Candidate announced he was atheist, or muslim............or non-christian.

 

[Tricky]

This thread has beed reopened for further discussion as requested by the thread starter. He apparently has new information to add.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

Palin is on record intermingling her beliefs in prophecy with policy matters.

Where?

I don't know about prophecy, but she's definitely on record of letting her religious views influence her political stances.

The Eagle Forum questionnaire she filled out in her gubernatorial campaign (which was removed from the web shortly after she hit the national stage) indicated that she opposed extending benefits to same-sex marriage partners and that she was opposed to explicit sex ed (favoring abstinence only education).

Elsewhere, she stated that she was in favor of teaching creationism in public school science classes.*

*Yes I know she used weasel words like "allow the debate" but ever since Dover, people advocating creationism this way have lost the benefit of the doubt. Also, since there is no scientific controversy or debate about ID/Creationism/Creation Science in regard to the central organizing principle of biology (evolution), I find it distressing that anyone would even advocate allowing the "debate". It has no place in public elementary or secondary school science classrooms.

 

[Frank Newgent]

According to Kalnins, there are three refuge states -- Alaska, Wisconsin and one other.

Wisconsin? Not refuge but refuse

NECEDAH — As sure as the galloon matches the stole, tongues are wagging here about the auction Saturday of the contents of a home-cum-chapel formerly occupied by Alan A. Bushey and his flock, members of the tiny and shrinking Immaculate Conception Community.

And no, that is not the place where a follower of that group died on the toilet, but it is close.

Bushey, 58, aka Bishop John Peter Bushey, is out on bail, awaiting trial on charges stemming from the discovery last May of the corpse of a devout supporter who died of natural causes and was left to decompose on a toilet in a one-bathroom rural Necedah home, just a few blocks from the chapel.

The body of 90-year-old Magdeline Alvina Middlesworth had been there two months, and the smell eventually alerted inquiring authorities...


...Bushey, as leader of the group, is accused of harming a child by predicting financial doom to two children and threatening to send the children to public school if they revealed there was a corpse in the bathroom. In a trial set for April, he also faces charges of hiding a corpse, and, in connection with the dead woman's financial affairs, theft.