Palin & Family Guy

[Cicero]

And she was completely right, too. Gotta love how Sarah Palin got burned by a person with Down Syndrome.

Oh, and your interpretation of the episode is so wonderfully insane, it's almost cute. Keep it at it, it's very entertaining.

More like AFF is being completely used by the left. The extra insult to Palin that was suppsoedly edited out of the NYT email, according to Palingates, may be a hoax.

"Palingates has also posted a copy of the email to back up their claim of what the NYT allegedly cut. I say allegedly, because I would not exactly classify Palingates as the most reliable source of information for all things Sarah Palin. I’ve emailed the NYT to confirm that they did, in fact, remove that line and will update when I hear back."Glynnis MacNicol |

http://www.mediaite.com/online/fami...n-sarah-palin-does-not-have-a-sense-of-humor/



Q. "When you get asked to play characters who have Down syndrome, does that make you at all uncomfortable?"

A. "No, I’m proud of it. I’m not embarrassed. But mostly, it doesn’t matter if you have Down syndrome. Really, it just matters to have a different challenge."

Q. "When did you find out about the reaction that the episode elicited from Sarah Palin and her family?"

A. "[laughs] That I did not even know about until my mom told me, “You’re on Channel 4!” And when I watched on Channel 4, on “Extra,” and I saw Sarah Palin with her son Trig. I’m like, “I’m not Trig. This is my life.” I was making fun of Sarah Palin, but not her son."

Q. "Do you agree with what she and her daughter Bristol were saying, that the character and the jokes were insulting to people with Down syndrome?"

A. "It’s not really an insult. I was doing my role, I’m an actor. I’m entitled to say something. It was really funny. I was laughing at it. I had a nice time doing voiceover. It was my first time doing a voiceover, and I had fun."

It is just sort of an insult, not really an insult.

Even AFF acknowledges that it was S.P. who was being made fun of in the "Family Guy" episode. No wonder MacFarlane didn't disabuse anyone of this when he was on the Bill Maher Show.

 

[JFrankA]

More like AFF is being completely used by the left. The extra insult to Palin that was suppsoedly edited out of the NYT email, according to Palingates, may be a hoax.

"Palingates has also posted a copy of the email to back up their claim of what the NYT allegedly cut. I say allegedly, because I would not exactly classify Palingates as the most reliable source of information for all things Sarah Palin. I’ve emailed the NYT to confirm that they did, in fact, remove that line and will update when I hear back."Glynnis MacNicol |

http://www.mediaite.com/online/fami...n-sarah-palin-does-not-have-a-sense-of-humor/



Q. "When you get asked to play characters who have Down syndrome, does that make you at all uncomfortable?"

A. "No, I’m proud of it. I’m not embarrassed. But mostly, it doesn’t matter if you have Down syndrome. Really, it just matters to have a different challenge."

Q. "When did you find out about the reaction that the episode elicited from Sarah Palin and her family?"

A. "[laughs] That I did not even know about until my mom told me, “You’re on Channel 4!” And when I watched on Channel 4, on “Extra,” and I saw Sarah Palin with her son Trig. I’m like, “I’m not Trig. This is my life.” I was making fun of Sarah Palin, but not her son."

Q. "Do you agree with what she and her daughter Bristol were saying, that the character and the jokes were insulting to people with Down syndrome?"

A. "It’s not really an insult. I was doing my role, I’m an actor. I’m entitled to say something. It was really funny. I was laughing at it. I had a nice time doing voiceover. It was my first time doing a voiceover, and I had fun."

It is just sort of an insult, not really an insult.

Even AFF acknowledges that it was S.P. who was being made fun of in the "Family Guy" episode. No wonder MacFarlane didn't disabuse anyone of this when he was on the Bill Maher Show.

Soooooooo.......

Now that it's clear that Trigg wasn't being made fun of or joked about, you're upset that poor, poor Sarah Palin was made fun of.

Poor poor poor Sarah Palin.

 

[fuelair]

Soooooooo.......

Now that it's clear that Trigg wasn't being made fun of or joked about, you're upset that poor, poor Sarah Palin was made fun of.

Poor poor poor Sarah Palin.

Thus my post 258!!

 

[Cicero]

Soooooooo.......

Now that it's clear that Trigg wasn't being made fun of or joked about, you're upset that poor, poor Sarah Palin was made fun of.

Poor poor poor Sarah Palin.

Not clear at all. AFF said it is not "really" an insult. She didn't say Trigg was not made fun of. But what about these JREF posters and their notion that this had zero to do with Palin?

Wait, how was this an attack on Sarah Palin?

She's not named and there is nothing like an attack.

I don't recall Sarah Palin being named in the episode she is yapping about. Lot's of people have been governor of Alaska - she really needs to get a grip!!!

it's a fictional show. Since this particular former governor of Alaska in this fictional context isn't named, it doesn't apply to anyone real. Though McFarlane (or writers) no doubt intend the audience to think of Palin.

Does anyone really think that Adam West's voice is the real voice of a fictional mayor, named Adam West, of a fictional town in the real state of Rhode Island?

And yet again, there are no former Alaskan female governors with a teenage daughter with Down syndrome.

The best reading is the one I've been giving--that the selfish and domineering character Ellen said that as a joke--to be snarky.

Does anyone seriously think the writers were suggesting that Trig will grow up and have a sex-change operation and be a disagreeable but very independent teenager?

Her child was not portrayed in this cartoon anymore than Monica Lewinsky is portrayed when they show Bill Clinton chasing chubby girls.

What exactly is the insult in a fictional character inferring that Sarah Palin is her mother? Would it be insulting to Liz Cheney if a fictional homosexual man mentioned he was the son of a "Former neoconservative Vice President?" Would it be insulting if a fictional autistic girl claimed to be the daughter of a "Former playmate and dating show hostesss?" Would it be insulting for a fictional character that is a male Oxford and Stanford graduate about to get married mention he was the son of a "Former President and current Secretary?"

More than anything, it seemed like a random pop culture reference. Currently Sarah Palin is the most famous mother of a Down Syndrome child. This was a call out to that. I picked up no inferance of "...and she's a bad person for having a DS child." Family Guy has definitely digged on Sarah Palin in the past. This really does not seem like of those times. I would think that being associated with the Nazi party to be a bigger insult than being associated with having a DS child. The former not even being an insult in my opinion.

 

[Ferguson]

Not clear at all. AFF said it is not "really" an insult. She didn't say Trigg was not made fun of.

I’m like, “I’m not Trig. This is my life.” I was making fun of Sarah Palin, but not her son."

Wow. It might help if you at least read your own posts.

 

[Cicero]

Wow. It might help if you at least read your own posts.

Right. I should say AFF admits to half of the connection, but not the other half. There are two components to the link to S.P. in the "Family Guy" episode. The first being the former governor of Alaska and the second is that the offspring of the former governor of Alaska has Down Syndrome. AFF acknowledges the former link, but doesn't seem to grasp that MacFarlane was using her as a reference to Trigg. If you remove the Down Syndrome connection, then the joke is still born. Trigg may not be the intended target of MacFarlane, but he is part of the joke. AFF seems confused about the part herself. First she says that, “I’m not Trig. This is my life," and then says, "I was doing my role, I’m an actor."

 

[JFrankA]

Not clear at all. AFF said it is not "really" an insult. She didn't say Trigg was not made fun of. But what about these JREF posters and their notion that this had zero to do with Palin?

So are you saying I'm right?

 

[Cynic]

AFF acknowledges the former link, but doesn't seem to grasp that MacFarlane was using her as a reference to Trigg. If you remove the Down Syndrome connection, then the joke is still born. Trigg may not be the intended target of MacFarlane, but he is part of the joke. AFF seems confused about the part herself. First she says that, “I’m not Trig. This is my life," and then says, "I was doing my role, I’m an actor."

I agree, but those two statements aren't incompatible. The joke obviously requires people to understand that Palin has a child with Down syndrome to work, and that child is Trig. As I suggested earlier in the thread, I strongly suspect the joke concerns Palin's having positioned herself as an authority on and defender of developmentally challenged children everywhere, and is not a specific attack on her child, which would be unreasonable and in itself a clue that it wasn't intended as such. But yes, it's quite obviously a joke at Palin's expense, and the route taken through her was Down syndrome, the disease, made possible because she has a child with it.

 

[Piscivore]

I agree, but those two statements aren't incompatible. The joke obviously requires people to understand that Palin has a child with Down syndrome to work, and that child is Trig. As I suggested earlier in the thread, I strongly suspect the joke concerns Palin's having positioned herself as an authority on and defender of developmentally challenged children everywhere, and is not a specific attack on her child, which would be unreasonable and in itself a clue that it wasn't intended as such. But yes, it's quite obviously a joke at Palin's expense, and the route taken through her was Down syndrome, the disease, made possible because she has a child with it.

...and uses the fact as political currency. Yes.

 

[Peephole]

Willow is the one who attended the Yankee game with Governor Palin, not Bristol. You must be the only one, aside from Letterman, who is confused about this.

"But he never expressly explained that he had inadvertently confused the two Palin daughters.

Monday he acknowledged that as the host of the program it was his responsibility to get the joke right. “I told a joke that was beyond flawed, and my intent is completely meaningless compared to the perception.”

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.c...gizes-again-to-governor-palin-and-her-family/

So you admit that Letterman made no reference to that Willow woman?

(In fact, it's pretty clear from the joke that he was referring to the pregnant Palin daughter.)

 

[Cicero]

So you admit that Letterman made no reference to that Willow woman?

(In fact, it's pretty clear from the joke that he was referring to the pregnant Palin daughter.)

What are you talking about? This was settled last June. Are you just now getting this news?

"I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke. I’m sorry about it and I’ll try to do better in the future," Letterman

Why is Letterman apologizing to Willow, the daughter you said he made no reference to, if there was no ambiguity about Letterman's target?

Are you equally clueless about Palin being the target of MacFarlane in the "Family Guy" episode.

 

[Cicero]

...and uses the fact as political currency. Yes.

What votes has Palin received in this mysterious election that Down Syndrome was used for "political currency?"

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Trigg is a boy! A child! NOT a teenage girl!

Exactly. The intelligent among us understand this. The stupid, not so much.

 

[Piscivore]

What votes has Palin received in this mysterious election that Down Syndrome was used for "political currency?"

She and her partner got 46 percent of the nationwide popular vote. I don't know how many of those she herself can claim.

 

[Cicero]

She and her partner got 46 percent of the nationwide popular vote. I don't know how many of those she herself can claim.

And this 46% of the vote was compiled because they ran on a Down Syndrome platform? I must have missed that plank.

 

[Piscivore]

And this 46% of the vote was compiled because they ran on a Down Syndrome platform? I must have missed that plank.

Do you really think this kind of facetiousness strengthens your position?

 

[quadraginta]

Do you really think this kind of facetiousness strengthens your position?

I think that he really does. That's part of the morbid fascination of reading his posts. It isn't unlike driving past a horrible car wreck on the highway. You know that there isn't anything there you need or should want to see, but you can't stop yourself from looking anyway.

 

[JFrankA]

What are you talking about? This was settled last June. Are you just now getting this news?

"I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke. I’m sorry about it and I’ll try to do better in the future," Letterman

Why is Letterman apologizing to Willow, the daughter you said he made no reference to, if there was no ambiguity about Letterman's target?

Are you equally clueless about Palin being the target of MacFarlane in the "Family Guy" episode.

All this time, you've been ignoring my point.

I'm going to take that as you think I'm right.

Again, this has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican or Conservative or Liberal. What it has to do is that there is this woman who, when she heard about a joke that merely referenced her in a joke, (and, seriously, there is no insult at all in the joke, it's merely a reference) stands on the shoulders of her down syndrome son in order to get attention.

That's the issue.

As for the David Letterman thing: David came right out and said the joke was in bad taste. Even went as far as to give her a chance to state her case on his show, give her a voice on his show, she refused saying something to the effect of (and I am paraphrasing) she is not going to let her children any where near "that man". Making sound like Letterman molests children often.

I will go on to say that if anyone should be insulted by the joke Letterman said, it should have been ARod. Letterman basically called him a child molester.

She milked that incident, she begged for attention and stood on the shoulders of her children for attention.

She has lost any and all respect from me.

 

[HarryHenderson]

I think I've found the true travesty of that Family Guy episode:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vi...glasses/bum-reviews/17494-family-guy-response

Prior to your post I could claim 100% ignorance of this idiot/guy/website. Please tell me he's not actually 'popular'. And if he is, with WHOM may I ask? The ONLY funny part of the bit is his deranged delusions that 1) Seth McFarlane would ever copy, or worse, want to copy ANYTHING that he had to say, EVER, and 2) What he claims as his own 'joke' has already been done/said 50 times in the past - most long before he got off his knuckles and walked upright.

The electrons in my monitor are now worse off for having been forced to get 'excited' to play his SO ******* UNFUNNY DRIVEL. That site is so the proof that ANY ordinary IDIOT can get a camera, put himself on the internet and then claim themselves FAMOUS... simply by...claiming themselves famous. For ***** sake man!

OMG! Now I need to go soak my head in gasoline to get the stink off.

 

[Cicero]

All this time, you've been ignoring my point.

I'm going to take that as you think I'm right.

What was your point, again?

Again, this has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican or Conservative or Liberal. What it has to do is that there is this woman who, when she heard about a joke that merely referenced her in a joke, (and, seriously, there is no insult at all in the joke, it's merely a reference) stands on the shoulders of her down syndrome son in order to get attention.

So the only reason that S.P. gets attention is because Trigg has Down Syndrome? S.P. has been the object of lib derision since McCain named her as his running mate. Even after McCain lost the election, and stepped down from the governorship, the libs wouldn't let it go. Why do you want to deny her 1st Amendment right to speak her peace after her family is targeted by liberal media types?

In case you missed it, AFF already confirmed that the intent was to make fun of Palin in the "Family Guy" show. MacFarlane used the Down Syndrome nexus to insure viewers got the joke. You say S.P. is using Trigg's Down Syndrome for attention, how about MacFarlane exploiting it for his own need.

That's the issue.

That's your opinion of the issue.

As for the David Letterman thing: David came right out and said the joke was in bad taste. Even went as far as to give her a chance to state her case on his show, give her a voice on his show, she refused saying something to the effect of (and I am paraphrasing) she is not going to let her children any where near "that man". Making sound like Letterman molests children often.

He didn't know it was in bad taste before he said it? Why would S.P. want to go on Letterman to help him with his ratings? Right. Letterman only molests interns.

I will go on to say that if anyone should be insulted by the joke Letterman said, it should have been ARod. Letterman basically called him a child molester

.

So it's Ok for Letterman to call A-Rod a child molester, but S.P. can't call Letterman a child molester? How dare S.P. make a joke at Letterman's expense. Comedians can only make jokes at S.P.'s expense.

She milked that incident, she begged for attention and stood on the shoulders of her children for attention.

The moral of the story is don't use S.P.'s children's for punch lines if you don't want her to get attention.

She has lost any and all respect from me.

I'm sure she will be crushed to hear this.