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Over Unity is No Longer Disputable

g4macdad said:
The problem has simply been the dogma of the scientific community.
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It doesn't matter what anybody thinks, it either works as advertised, or it doesn't.

I wouldn't put any money on this "free energy" gadget. But hey, you go right ahead. If it's any consolation, I also believe that no laws of physics are being violated either.
 
If the building makes use of that unique geometry, then he may come back in again slightly before he finishes going out.
 
Loss Leader said:
You people are all missing the only important point.

His sister was played by David Hewlett's REAL-LIFE SISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why can't you understand that?
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Did you notice the title of the movie at the bottom of her filmography? And read the plot summary for it. It's eerily familiar.

Steve S.
 
Oldpossum said:
Ahhhh, heres your problem!
There is no "Newton's first law of Thermodynamics" to break, or follow!
There is Newton's 1st law of Gravitation, which has nothing to do with Free Energy.
and there is the 1st Law of Thermodynamics, which has nothing to do with Newton, or Free Energy either, for that matter.

Basicly your problem, g4macdad, is that you don't comprehend basic physics, and so you seem incapable of understanding, why you are posting gibberish; And why we are so sceptical of the links, to the Free energy scams, you post.
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You are correct, I am no scientist.

This video never did anything special for me honestly. I only included it it as a demonstration of the principal. There are tons of these devices out there and this is not on the top of the list by any means.

My point is, that this device is real, as are many others. The only real thing that keeps us from free energy is skepticism. I think that is about to change very soon. Either jump on the wagon now, or look real dumb later.
 
g4macdad said:
You are correct, I am no scientist.
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I don't think any of us are surprised about that.

This video never did anything special for me honestly. I only included it it as a demonstration of the principal. There are tons of these devices out there and this is not on the top of the list by any means.

My point is, that this device is real, as are many others.
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Yeah, um, the issue is not whether or not the devices are real, it's whether they work. And none of them do.

The only real thing that keeps us from free energy is skepticism.
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No. What keeps us from free energy are BOTH the first AND second laws of thermodynamics. You've got some understanding of the first one, but evidently no real understanding of the second one.

I think that is about to change very soon. Either jump on the wagon now, or look real dumb later.
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That's been the refrain of free energy advocates for a long time now. And it never happens. Why? Because it can't happen. There is no such thing as free energy, and there never will be. Maybe one day we'll get some great new power source (like cold fusion), but it sure as hell isn't going to be free.
 
g4macdad said:
The only real thing that keeps us from free energy is skepticism. I think that is about to change very soon. Either jump on the wagon now, or look real dumb later.
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How exactly does skepticism keep us from free energy? Are our skeptical thoughts somehow interfering with the unique geometry in a way that causes these devices to fail?
 
g4macdad said:
You are correct, I am no scientist.

This video never did anything special for me honestly. I only included it it as a demonstration of the principal. There are tons of these devices out there and this is not on the top of the list by any means.

My point is, that this device is real, as are many others. The only real thing that keeps us from free energy is skepticism. I think that is about to change very soon. Either jump on the wagon now, or look real dumb later.
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False dichotomy. How about "Look real dumb now"?
 
There's not much to say about this that hasn't been said already, but, leaving aside any violation of thermodynamics, they make so few claims about their device that it is impossible to give it any kind of engineering evaluation.

It's pretty hard to see how high iron loss (predominately caused by hysteresis in the magnetic circuits) could result in a more efficient device.
 
g4macdad said:
You are correct, I am no scientist.
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And yet you clearly think you are qualified to tell them why they're not talking nonsense.

I only included it it as a demonstration of the principal.
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The principal of the scientifically illiterate being able to be easily hoodwinked by scientific sounding nonsense?

There are tons of these devices out there
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When one of them is shown to work I'll give a crap about that.

My point is, that this device is real, as are many others.
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Wow! Real devices!

When one of them is shown to work I'll give a crap about that.

The only real thing that keeps us from free energy is skepticism.
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Yeah! Because, you know, if we're skeptical about free energy then it stops working! It's not like someone couldn't go ahead and just use his free-energy device anyway if it actually worked!

Quick! Everybody clap! I hear clapping brings free energy back to life!

Either jump on the wagon now, or look real dumb later.
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Oooh no! We'll look dumb if we don't simply agree that whatever these people say they're doing is what they're doing! The shame! How embarrassing it would be if once the process is opened up so it can actually be confirmed it was in fact confirmed!

It feels good to think you can get the one up on people you think look down upon you for knowing more than you doesn't it? It's a shame you simply don't have the qualifications to know the difference between a thoroughbred and an old nag tarted up as one though. If these people won't enter the race it is pointless of you to insist they'll win.
 
strathmeyer said:
Why were so many of the scientific sentences in the video such nonsense? I've seen more realistic conversation about computers on an episode of 24.

Loss Leader, if what you say it true, we are actually taking energy from other parallel universes. Sign me up for the universe wars!
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Can we finally use all of those nukes? If the fall out is in the parallel universe, we dont' all get sick.

Can we dad? Can we please use the nukes for the universe wars?

(Disclaimer: I played some Starcraft this weekend with my son, and went Ghost/Nuke for my build. We beat three comps, thanks in part to them being Zerg, and in part to my eight command centers with nuke silos. I may be a bit nuke happy this week.)

DR
 
g4macdad said:
Please try to escape scientific dogma and be a leader.
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May I recommend you avoid statements such as this? Any decent plausibilometer will be overpegged by such statements, as you can see opposite.

~~ Paul
 
g4macdad said:
You are correct, I am no scientist.
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Yes, yes, we know.

This video never did anything special for me honestly. I only included it it as a demonstration of the principal. There are tons of these devices out there...
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Yes, the world is full of bogus PM machines. They've been around since the 19th century. None of them works.

... and this is not on the top of the list by any means.
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What is?

My point is, that this device is real, as are many others. The only real thing that keeps us from free energy is skepticism.
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I thought it was the laws of thermodynamics, and all the time it was me! Boy, is my face red.

I think that is about to change very soon.
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How soon? Would you be prepared to bet money on the proposition?

Either jump on the wagon now, or look real dumb later.
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I'll jump on the bandwagon the moment it shows any sign of going anywhere.
 
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