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Merged Osama bin Laden dead,

JihadJane said:
Bin Laden’s Daughter Confirms
Father Captured Alive Then Killed By US Special Forces

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The official said a 12-year-old daughter of bin Laden was among the six children rescued from the three-storey compound.

The daughter has reportedly told her Pakistani investigators that the US forces captured her father alive but shot him dead in front of family members.

According to sources, Bin Laden was staying on the ground floor of the house and was dragged on the floor to the helicopter after being shot dead by US commandos.

There were conflicting reports about the second person the US forces took along with them. Some Pakistani officials say it was one of Bin Laden’s sons injured by the US commandos and thrown onto a separate military chopper; others say he was killed in the operation and it was only his dead body that they took along.

The officials say not all children rescued from the house belonged to the al-Qaeda leader. All were being kept at a safe place. The US has not been given access to the detained women and children, the officials claimed. About the second woman, many officials feel she could be a close relative of Osama or his servant.

Similarly, according to information Pakistani officials collected from detained persons, Osama was neither armed nor did inmates at the compound fire at the US choppers or commandos.

“Not a single bullet was fired from the compound at the US forces and their choppers. Their chopper developed some technical fault and crashed and the wreckage was left on the spot,” a well-informed official explained.


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http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/05/04/147782.html
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Do you have a point?
 
Geronimo!
...It was his name that the U.S. military chose as the code for the raid, and perhaps for Osama bin Laden himself, during the operation that killed the al-Qaida leader in Pakistan. That led to the iconic transmission from the raid: "Geronimo EKIA." Geronimo, Enemy Killed in Action.

In a triumphant moment for the United States, the moniker has left a sour taste among many Native Americans...

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2011/05/04/20110504geronimo0504.html
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I'm hoping that one good change that can come from this operation is firing the idiot who picks the operation names. Sheesh we've had some stupid ones. It can't be a random accident. Have'ta side with the Apaches on this one. Next bad guy operation gets to be Ronald Reagan...
 
JihadJane said:
I agree.

Unfortunately I'm going to be very busy for the next few days and must stop posting now. I need an early night. I've got a lot to do. Perhaps you could do it for me.
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:boggled:

I did. In the post you are replying to.


[snipped the stuff that I'm done with whether you are or not.]

JihadJane said:
What did I write to make you guess that?
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Because instead of just discussing the issues you post snippy little insults that do nothing more than prolong the confusion people have expressed about what you''ve posted.
 
JihadJane said:
Bin Laden’s Daughter Confirms
Father Captured Alive Then Killed By US Special Forces

EXTRACT:

The official said a 12-year-old daughter of bin Laden was among the six children rescued from the three-storey compound.

The daughter has reportedly told her Pakistani investigators that the US forces captured her father alive but shot him dead in front of family members.

According to sources, Bin Laden was staying on the ground floor of the house and was dragged on the floor to the helicopter after being shot dead by US commandos.

There were conflicting reports about the second person the US forces took along with them. Some Pakistani officials say it was one of Bin Laden’s sons injured by the US commandos and thrown onto a separate military chopper; others say he was killed in the operation and it was only his dead body that they took along.

The officials say not all children rescued from the house belonged to the al-Qaeda leader. All were being kept at a safe place. The US has not been given access to the detained women and children, the officials claimed. About the second woman, many officials feel she could be a close relative of Osama or his servant.

Similarly, according to information Pakistani officials collected from detained persons, Osama was neither armed nor did inmates at the compound fire at the US choppers or commandos.

“Not a single bullet was fired from the compound at the US forces and their choppers. Their chopper developed some technical fault and crashed and the wreckage was left on the spot,” a well-informed official explained.


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http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/05/04/147782.html
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Think about it. You capture Bin Laden. Then when you execute him you let the 12 yr old and other family members watch?

Not very likely. What would be the point? The most elite and well trained Seal Force couldn't control their emotions and had the family watch for kicks?
 
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Some Repugs have seen the photos. If there were none or the evidence was shaky, the Repugs would be screaming up a campaign storm that the events were faked. The fact all the Repugs are doing is trying to take credit and excuse their immoral torturing IS PROOF BEYOND ALL DOUBT, BIN LADEN IS DEAD AND HE WAS KILLED SUNDAY.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Some Repugs have seen the photos. If there were none or the evidence was shaky, the Repugs would be screaming up a campaign storm that the events were faked.
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Don'tchya know that they're in on the conspiracy too? Like how the McCain and Clinton campaigns all looked into the birth certificate issue and were satisfied it was real. I had someone tell me that Hillary, Palin, and McCain were all part of the conspiracy.

Steve S
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Think about it.
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JJ is not thinking, she's reacting.

Can't you see she's desperately trying to spin this story any way she can as long as it makes the US look bad?

First she wanted to imply OBL was already dead, giving credence to the early reports of his death, which would imply the Obama administration is lying about last sunday's operation.

Now she found another story that would make the US look bad, so she decided to go along with that one, even though it contradicts the first story she was trying to throw at us. Now she's implying OBL was really killed on sunday, but this time in front of his own daughter, which would make the operation look bad, how dare they kill a father in front of his children, right?

See? OBL either died sunday or he didn't, but JJ wants so bad the US to be the bad guy, that she's willing to give credence to the two propositions, even though they are in direct contradiction.

Spin spin spin, it's all JJ is good at doing. Thinking things through though is another story... She just reacts to whatever comes her way in her usual way, whatever new information surfaces, she spins it against the US. She doesn't search the news to find new information that will make her learn more about the world, she peruses the news in order to justify her beliefs and use it for her own agenda. That's what ideologues do. She conditioned herself on this mindset, now it has become a reflex.
 
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zooterkin said:
I thought they were in Pakistan?
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Given what we now know about our Pakistani "allies", that's deep behind enemy lines.

One does not fly advanced stealth helicopters deep into a nations interior without allerting their government if they are our friends.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
DNA testing is quite mobile these days.

It only takes a long time when you are dealing with minute samples that must be amplified by PCR.
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The Spartan DX cannot do DNA matching to identify a human being. It's designed to rapidly detect the presence of things like HIV or other foreign bodies.
 
Not that I think it's likely, or agree with the arguments, but strictly speaking it could be that the killing of OBL was illegal.

:)
 
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