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Merged Osama bin Laden dead,

Belz... said:
This is getting better and better.
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You know, I always wondered how far conspiracy theorists took the "don't trust the government" rule.

Scenario: A recent government report shows that wearing your seat belt is more important than initially believed.

No! It's a lie! Seat belts are bad! Everybody drive without a seat belt. The seat belt will kill you!
 
JihadJane said:
Is there a reason why you choose the default position of believing a governing structure that has repeatedly lied to you?
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Is Al Queda part of the hoax? Did they issue proclamations of revenge to just go with it? How about the entire armed forces squadron that had to be part of the conspiracy? Do you think a conspiracy this big could be hoaxed? That is about as absurd as saying the moon landing was faked.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Is Al Queda part of the hoax? Did they issue proclamations of revenge to just go with it? How about the entire armed forces squadron that had to be part of the conspiracy? Do you think a conspiracy this big could be hoaxed? That is about as absurd as saying the moon landing was faked.
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Many twoofers think that AlQ is an arm of the CIA, and so, is of course in on the hoax.
 
dtugg said:
My nearly 13 year old brother doesn't even know who Osama bin Laden was beside that he was "some terrorist guy" :sigh: I think that was pretty much the same answer I would have given when I was 13. In 1998. What the hell are schools teaching kids nowadays? I mean, Osama was undoubtedly one of the most important people of 21st century thus far.
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From -my- childhood....
"Whistle while you work
Hitler is a jerk
Mussolini is a meanie
And the Japs are worse".
learned that about age 5.
 
I Am The Scum said:
If you're willing to believe that the government is willing and able to stage this raid all for the sake of faking a report
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Able? Certainly, any government and a few thousand criminal gangs would be _able_ to stage a raid like that.

Willing? That is a different and potentially uncertain question.

thaiboxerken said:
Is Al Queda part of the hoax? Did they issue proclamations of revenge to just go with it? How about the entire armed forces squadron that had to be part of the conspiracy? Do you think a conspiracy this big could be hoaxed?
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The best defense against revolution is to lead it. Huge movements can be false flag hoaxes, with everyone else honestly in it except the small leadership.

Belz... said:
So you ARE a truther. Thanks for clearing that up.
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I am skeptical about the vague evidence. If you have a problem with that, it might make you a believer.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Is Al Queda part of the hoax? Did they issue proclamations of revenge to just go with it? How about the entire armed forces squadron that had to be part of the conspiracy? Do you CTwinkies think imagine a conspiracy this big could be hoaxed? That is about as absurd as saying the moon landing was faked.
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Cleaned it up a bit.
The twinkies don't/can't think.
 
The infamous "Photoshopped" blue-shirt guy shows up in several photographs of the watchers.
 
gumboot said:
And how long do you think it would take to get the DNA sample from the site of the assault to a secure military lab to commence the required testing?
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DNA testing is quite mobile these days.

It only takes a long time when you are dealing with minute samples that must be amplified by PCR.
 
JJM 777 said:
Able? Certainly, any government and a few thousand criminal gangs would be _able_ to stage a raid like that.
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But wouldn't they also be able to falsify any other potential evidence they might show?

I think you're missing my point, so I'll rephrase: Is there any evidence the government could produce that would convince you that the recent story of Bin Laden's death is true? If so, what would it be?
 
gumboot said:
It essentially is. Have you actually read it?
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Have you read "Against All Enemies" by Richard Clark?

Richard Alan Clarke[1] (born October 27, 1950) was a U.S. government employee for 30 years, 1973–2003. He worked for the State Department during the presidency of Ronald Reagan.[2] In 1992, President George H.W. Bush appointed him to chair the Counter-terrorism Security Group and to a seat on the United States National Security Council. President Bill Clinton retained Clarke and in 1998 promoted him to be the National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism, the chief counter-terrorism adviser on the National Security Council. Under President George W. Bush, Clarke initially continued in the same position, but the position was no longer given cabinet-level access. He later became the Special Advisor to the President on cybersecurity, before leaving the Bush Administration in 2003.
Clarke came to widespread public attention for his role as counter-terrorism czar in the Clinton and Bush Administrations in March 2004, when he appeared on the 60 Minutes television news magazine, released his memoir about his service in government, Against All Enemies, and testified before the 9/11 Commission. In all three instances, Clarke was sharply critical of the Bush Administration's attitude toward counter-terrorism before the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and of the decision to go to war with Iraq. Following Clarke's strong criticisms of the Bush Administration, Bush administration officials and other Republicans attempted to discredit him or rebut his criticisms, making Clarke a controversial figure.
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Try this memo: January 25, 2001 Richard Clarke Memo: "We urgently need . . . a Principals level review on the al Qida network."

Rice declined to act.

Conde's rebuttal plus additional related information.

And so did Bush decline to take the threat seriously before 9-11.
Ron Suskind, George W. Bush and the Aug. 6, 2001, PDB
Bush to briefer: "All right. You've covered your ass, now."
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Transcript of the infamous DPB courtesy of CNN.
Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related.
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"Historical"? :rolleyes: Re-reading it knowing it was one month before 9-11 and Bush did NOTHING except dismiss the memo makes my blood boil.
 
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JJM 777 said:
Sorry for not reading ANYTHING in this thread, a bit busy now.

My feelings about this (legal disclaimer: feelings are not necessarily based on facts or anything else than how it feels):

911 needed a scapegoat, else people would have demanded closer and faster investigation into the strange events of the day than they actually did.

If the scapegoat never existed to begin with, or had nothing to do with it, or was on US side all the time and now lives somewhere after facial surgery, the scapegoat must disappear from the scene sooner or later by other means than being captured and imprisoned. The handy way to do it is to say that you killed him and then threw his body to the sea.

EVIDENCE? None, for ever. Hence my skepticism, for ever.
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Did you miss the video of Bin Laden gloating?
 
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