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OOS Collapse Propagation Model

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Major_Tom said:
It is obvious from the propagation mechanism that the initiation sequences of WTC1 and 2 are the most important events to study.

... regular forum members were quite ignorant of the actual movements and ejections.

The threads were combined and then moved out of the forum.

... the posters woefully ignorant of the initiation processes, but they seem to experience no shame at destroying the only efforts to examine the sequences carefully.

... see the censorship in such an act. This is not surprising. I am interested to see if there is a single regular poster on this forum that that is capable of disagreeing with the herd.

Just a little experiment to see if there is one among you that is capable of debating honestly without censorship.

Anyone out there with just a drop of courage who can reply without an intellectually embarrassing response?
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There is no debate possible for the illusion you have on 911.
For the reality based world, 19 terrorists did 911.
Major_Tom said:
... "gravity-driven collapse" is a mere illusion to mask an intentional act so barbaric, so inhumane and morally impoverished that the fabled characteristics of Satan come to mind. ...
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You believe an unnamed evildoer, or evildoers did 911. How do we debate your delusional conclusion you are afraid to define, or defend?

Go ahead repeat your failed attempt to back in CD. You have no goal and have formed no conclusions past your evildoers did 911, and you can't name them.

Your paranoia extends to imagined censorship, and 911.
 
Major_Tom said:
It is obvious from the propagation mechanism that the initiation sequences of WTC1 and 2 are the most important events to study.
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Redundant. Both are identical. You see one, you see the other. Saves time and keystrokes.

When WTC1 was examined it was pretty clear that the regular forum members were quite ignorant of the actual movements and ejections.
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Actually, no. Ignorant means "you don't know"
They went down. Problem solved.
The threads were combined and then moved out of the forum.
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This is a conspiracy forum. You had no conspiracy. Only numbers and conjecture.

That is what has surprised me the most, that not only are the posters woefully ignorant of the initiation processes, but they seem to experience no shame at destroying the only efforts to examine the sequences carefully.
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Again, we know the processes. Aircraft+Massive Fires = down.
If it happened once, we'd be surprised. But as it is, they were the TWIN towers, and both suffered identically, and failed identically. A precedent that takes place moments before it's repeated is still a precedent. After the 1st tower, it was pretty much assumed the 2nd one would go down. At least in the company I was in. After the 2nd one collapsed, there was no shock. Just a feeling of "well, what did you expect"?




It would be hard for many regular readers to not see the censorship in such an act. This is not surprising. I am interested to see if there is a single regular poster on this forum that that is capable of disagreeing with the herd.
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Again, if you presented something of a CONSPIRACY and maybe, just maybe, something that might be mistaken for a conclusion, it wouldn't have been moved. As it is, go cry in your milk. You'll find no support from me.

Just a little experiment to see if there is one among you that is capable of debating honestly without censorship.

Anyone out there with just a drop of courage who can reply without an intellectually embarrassing response?
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Talking to yourself again? You've been asked several questions several times by people 100x more patient at your game than I. You've answered a grand total of NONE of them. Get off your freakin soapbox and explain yourself. FOR ONCE.
 
WTC2 east face 78th floor ejections emerge from 7 locations marked by ovals:

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Marked by the lower row of green arrows:

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Close up of ejection origin:

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I would like to demonstrate the regular JREF posters are as ignorant of the WTC2 initiation mechanism as they were of the WTC1 mechanism.
 
Major_Tom said:
... I would like to demonstrate the regular JREF posters are as ignorant of the WTC2 initiation mechanism as they were of the WTC1 mechanism.
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You present after initiation photos of the collapse. Big fail, and the ejections are not from explosives, they are from the gravity collapse you think is an illusion. Got any conclusions yet? How do you intend on backing in CD, you can't comment on and explain your own SPAM? How long will it take to break your news, to make a conclusion?
 
Major_Tom said:
It is obvious from the propagation mechanism that the initiation sequences of WTC1 and 2 are the most important events to study.

When WTC1 was examined it was pretty clear that the regular forum members were quite ignorant of the actual movements and ejections.

The threads were combined and then moved out of the forum.

That is what has surprised me the most, that not only are the posters woefully ignorant of the initiation processes, but they seem to experience no shame at destroying the only efforts to examine the sequences carefully.

It would be hard for many regular readers to not see the censorship in such an act.
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I doubt it's censorship. I think it's ignorance. The mods are bedunkers. Bedunkers really, genuinely, don't understand what's being discussed. Look at the carnival barkers of their movement. Utterly clueless. And apparently proud of it.
 
ergo said:
I doubt it's censorship. I think it's ignorance. The mods are bedunkers. Bedunkers really, genuinely, don't understand what's being discussed. Look at the carnival barkers of their movement. Utterly clueless. And apparently proud of it.
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Clueless? How do your claims fit with the OOSCPM?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6263596&postcount=621
Wait, did you say a moon size pile of rubble might not crush the WTC? How does your claim fit with OOS? You are trying to debunk Major Tom. Major Tom has tried to explain the WTC can collapse completely once it starts. You need to read what Major Tom posts, he refutes your claim.

Why are you an Major Tom telling lies about censorship? The thread was moved, not deleted. Why do you make up lies? Out of ignorance?
Bedunkers, this is the best insult you can come up with, as you are debunking Major Tom, and Major Tom debunks you, and you have no clue.
 
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Thus spake Beachnut.
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Do you understand your claims, your ideas debunk Major Tom's Model?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6263596&postcount=621
Gravity cannot do it, because the building's design prevents it, as do all modern highrise designs.
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Do you understand how Major Tom's Model debunks your claim, your ideas on the WTC? Are you able to compare and contrast your ideas with Major Tom's? Bet you failed to study Major Tom's work against the nonsense you have been posting. And this post proves it.

Major Tom's Model was made up so Major Tom could say evildoers could bring down the WTC towers without much effort.
Your Model appears to be the WTC towers are so strong they can't fail even if the moon fell from 10 feet on them. I already did the calculation that the WTC would collapse in 8.6 seconds from the impact floor with the mass of the moon, dropped from 10 feet, and you failed to comment on that, and you failed to compare and contrast your claims with the Model and the conclusion Major Tom makes; that the gravity collapses are illusions to hide the evildoers doing it. Wait, you and Major Tom agree on the ends, but not on the means. Or what? Explain how your ideas support Major Tom's overall conclusion the WTC gravity collapse are an illusion. Thank you.
 
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Major_Tom said:
WTC2 east face 78th floor ejections emerge from 7 locations marked by ovals:

[qimg]http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/images/photoalbum/13/ejection__locations.jpg[/qimg]


Marked by the lower row of green arrows:

[qimg]http://femr2.ucoz.com/yhtyj.gif[/qimg]


Close up of ejection origin:

[qimg]http://femr2.ucoz.com/_ph/5/2/786877858.gif[/qimg]


I would like to demonstrate the regular JREF posters are as ignorant of the WTC2 initiation mechanism as they were of the WTC1 mechanism.
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We all know material is ejected during the collapse and that clearly shows bend, break, collapse, eject. If you think they're pre-collapse ejections I think it's you who may be misreading the visual evidence.
 
MT - honestly now. You NEED to tell me in plain terms, why this information is so spectacular. You've told us and shown us that the collapses started right smack where the aircraft and fires were. Why is that so special?
 
Major_Tom said:
That is what has surprised me the most, that not only are the posters woefully ignorant of the initiation processes, but they seem to experience no shame at destroying the only efforts to examine the sequences carefully.

It would be hard for many regular readers to not see the censorship in such an act.
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Says the man trying to restict the evidence to only the visual.
 
MT's declaration that he and he alone truly understands the initiation processes just seems a little arrogant to me.
 
Major_Tom said:
I would like to demonstrate the regular JREF posters are as ignorant of the WTC2 initiation mechanism as they were of the WTC1 mechanism.
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Can you tell us specifically, in simple, straightforward terms, how the initiation mechanism (as you understand it) differs from that of NIST?
 
Major_Tom said:
Perhaps a review of the information presented is in order so the posters can see how ignorant they were over both the WTC1 initiation movement and the propagation movement?

It will be quite an embarrassing review for you. Are you sure you really need to be reminded again?

I have it all in print, but the memory loss on this forum is astounding.
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Damage from planes and fire made the buildings fall examining videos to the pixel level won't change that.
 
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