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One Question for 28th Kingdom

28IQ said:
GET LOST. You lose. You were just owned by Einstein...and now, yer all just a bunch of blithering fools. This device is the one piece of evidence you were all resting your hats on...and Einstein just shoved it in your faces.
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No he didn't.....this doo-hickey might make a nice hole in the columns and thats about it. It would need to be 30 times bigger and have to use 100X or more Thermite, if thats what its even using. Get a grip.
 
Horatius said:
If you look at the patent, the devices can be ganged together to cut along a line. Also, the size tends to scale with the size of the object being cut, so consider the relative dimensions of the device in the video, and then scale it up to the size of the columns. And then strap a whole bunch together....for every column.

It would be quite massive, I'm sure. And then try to place all of these in secret, and then recover the evidence from the site while every camera in the city is pointing at you.....

And 28th claims he can see the "big picture"? It is to laugh.....

But yes, props to Einsteen for actually finding some evidence.
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Lets see, if one of these can cut through 2" of the structural steel, they'd only need around 50 for each column, every 30' or so. Thats a total of 2,150 per column times x number of core columns.....yeah good job Einsteen. Go ahead and call NIST with your findings.
 
28th Kingdom said:
I like how you deniers play by different rules. Of, course it's okay for NIST to create models and conduct experiments only to ignore their findings...so that they can create computer simulations of the events on 9/11 that would give them whatever answers they were looking for. They surely don't need to recreate the WTC in its original size...heck, they don't even need models...they can just use computer simulations.

But, then you pose a question to us...we provide you with unbelievable video footage of a device, that can cut vertical steel...but that's not good enough. We need to reconstruct a steel column the exact size of the ones in the WTC Towers in order to prove therma/ite can cut through them.

GET LOST. You lose. You were just owned by Einstein...and now, yer all just a bunch of blithering fools. This device is the one piece of evidence you were all resting your hats on...and Einstein just shoved it in your faces.

Maybe you should all take a step back....and start to heavily reconsider your thoughts about 9/11....since you all have NOTHING. You've got nothing, and that's why you all refuse to answer any questions about your own theory.

I even created you your own thread, so that you could discuss your side of things...but nope, you don't have to answer questions...you can just play the cynic, and avoid reality...by denying anything we say...no matter if it's even reconfirmed in mainstream media publications (that you believe so much in)

Note to USG Cult Members: DENYING IS NOT DEBUNKING.
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1) The poster's name is einsteen, not Einstein.
2) If we assume, for the moment, the device shown in the swf video is a thermite cutting torch we can look at the following:
Maximum size of the piece of rebar in the demonstration:
Imperial Bar Size|"Soft" Metric Size|Weight (lb⁄ft)|Nominal Diameter (in)|Nominal Diameter (mm)|Nominal Area (in²)
#18 |#57 |13.60 |2.257 |57.33 |4.00

Now, we have to answer the following questions:
1) How much fuel was necessary for the device to cut through a piece of rebar with a maximum area of 4"^2?
2) How much more fuel would be necessary to cut through the columns in the WTC?
3) Can the device be implemented in such a manner as to move around the exterior of the column, or can it be made large enough to cut through the column w/o moving?
4) What would the approx. size of the final device be?
5) What debris from such a device look like? Would it be recognizable in the debris from the tower?
6) What other evidence would the device leave?
 
Nice math Apath. At 30' per cut that's 1000 feet divided by 30 which is 33 multiplied by 47 is 1566 devices.

At 40' per cut that's 1000 feet divided by 40 which is 25 multiplied by 47 is 1175 devices.

1175 divided by 6 weeks (42 days) work time = 27 devices a day.

Everything in the buildings was turned to rubble...all of the steel was twisted and massively deformed...but these devices would surely remain in perfect condition...like that miracle passport that was found a few blocks from ground zero.

Buried in 10's of thousands of pounds of rubble...these mangled devices would stick out like a needle in a haystack.
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
1) The poster's name is einsteen, not Einstein.
2) If we assume, for the moment, the device shown in the swf video is a thermite cutting torch we can look at the following:
Maximum size of the piece of rebar in the demonstration:
Imperial Bar Size|"Soft" Metric Size|Weight (lb⁄ft)|Nominal Diameter (in)|Nominal Diameter (mm)|Nominal Area (in²)
#18 |#57 |13.60 |2.257 |57.33 |4.00

Now, we have to answer the following questions:
1) How much fuel was necessary for the device to cut through a piece of rebar with a maximum area of 4"^2?
2) How much more fuel would be necessary to cut through the columns in the WTC?
3) Can the device be implemented in such a manner as to move around the exterior of the column, or can it be made large enough to cut through the column w/o moving?
4) What would the approx. size of the final device be?
5) What debris from such a device look like? Would it be recognizable in the debris from the tower?
6) What other evidence would the device leave?
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STOP!!!!

This has nothing to do with the OP.

The video shown was not a steel column, end of discussion.

Still waiting for a demonstration of a device that uses thermi/ate to cut a vertical steel column.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Nice math Apath. At 30' per cut that's 1000 feet divided by 30 which is 33 multiplied by 47 is 1566 devices.

At 40' per cut that's 1000 feet divided by 40 which is 25 multiplied by 47 is 1175 devices.

1175 divided by 6 weeks (42 days) work time = 27 devices a day.

Everything in the buildings was turned to rubble...all of the steel was twisted and massively deformed...but these devices would surely remain in perfect condition...like that miracle passport that was found a few blocks from ground zero.

Buried in 10's of thousands of pounds of rubble...these mangled devices would stick out like a needle in a haystack.
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OFF TOPIC.

Please do not discuss cutting 1175 beams until you can demonstrate a device that can cut 1!
 
JonnyFive said:
Now, we only need to confirm that Spectre did indeed create the device in the patent and the video isn't just of one of their other products.
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Well, yeah, of course that :) . Chain of evidence and everything. I just think we should provide positive reinforcement when one of them does something right for once. Just like training a cat, really. And I expect it will be just as long and frustrating....
 
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28th Kingdom said:
Nice math Apath. At 30' per cut that's 1000 feet divided by 30 which is 33 multiplied by 47 is 1566 devices.
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Yet in a building that is open 24/7 , no one noticed these devices?



At 40' per cut that's 1000 feet divided by 40 which is 25 multiplied by 47 is 1175 devices.

1175 divided by 6 weeks (42 days) work time = 27 devices a day.
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Yet in a building that is open 24/7 , no one noticed these devices?

Everything in the buildings was turned to rubble...all of the steel was twisted and massively deformed...but these devices would surely remain in perfect condition...like that miracle passport that was found a few blocks from ground zero.
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Yet in a building that is open 24/7 , no one noticed these devices?
Yet they did find computers, desks and the like among hte rubble?
Yet paper survived?
Yet some of hte fuselage from the airplanes survived.

Buried in 10's of thousands of pounds of rubble...these mangled devices would stick out like a needle in a haystack.[/quote]
 
Arus808 said:
Yet in a building that is open 24/7 , no one noticed these devices?





Yet in a building that is open 24/7 , no one noticed these devices?



Yet in a building that is open 24/7 , no one noticed these devices?
Yet they did find computers, desks and the like among hte rubble?
Yet paper survived?
Yet some of hte fuselage from the airplanes survived.

Buried in 10's of thousands of pounds of rubble...these mangled devices would stick out like a needle in a haystack.
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OFF TOPIC. Please stick to the OP.
 
I'm pleading with everyone to stop responding to anything but the OP in this thread!

I know that 28K throws things out there that are like red capes to a bull, but I urge everyone to resist the temptation. If you want to address him on something other than a demonstration of the device in the OP PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE open another thread.

Stop enabling him by allowing going off on tangents.

I would just want him to answer the one simple question in the OP.
 
OFF TOPIC. Please stick to the OP.
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He's going to use the "device" as presented by Einsteen as his "proof". So, the original question in the first post has been answered by him.
 
So, 28K, do you have evidence of a thermite device cutting through a structural column?
 
Arus808 said:
He's going to use the "device" as presented by Einsteen as his "proof". So, the original question in the first post has been answered by him.
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He tried but by definition the video provided is NOT cutting a steel vertical column.

So he has yet to answer the OP.
 
Spindrift said:
He tried but by definition the video provided is NOT cutting a steel vertical column.

So he has yet to answer the OP.
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Yes, but that's by our "left-brained" "definition". You'll never get a better answer out of him.

As evidence, I provide his entire body of "work" to date......
 
28th Kingdom said:
like that miracle passport that was found a few blocks from ground zero.
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I guess they don't teach you in woowoo school about the memo from Marsh & Mclennan that was found intact in an air vent at Ten House. Nor did they teach you about the various pieces of jewlery found at GZ. Nor the jeans scattered around Liberty plaza. Least of all I am sure they didn't mention any of the law books found in Battery City that were in one piece or the bookcase that was found intact more than 500 feet away that oddly enough had the books on it's shelves and the books were still alphabetized. And you claim the passport was a miracle?!?
 
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