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Omniscience - is it a problem for God?

Robin said:
Oddly you didn't answer my question. Supposing (and I hope this never happens) your children rejected you, turned away from you. Would you want them to suffer? If it was within your power to prevent it would you let them suffer just because they rejected you? I am guessing that you wouldn't. I am guessing that you would do everything within your power to prevent their suffering whether or not they accepted you. I know I would.

Now you say that God is love. And don't forget that everything is within God's power. So why would God allow someone to suffer just because they genuinely didn't believe that God existed? Why would God allow someone to suffer just because they sincerely followed some different religion? Why would God even allow a sinner to suffer that believed in God but rejected him?

Why is God's love less powerful than our own love for our children?


By the way we have heard all this stuff thousands of times before, there is really no point in quoting this stuff yet again. Why don't you use the time to actually address some of the points I raised?
God's ways are not our ways. His thoughts are much higher than ours. And when it comes to love, don't you think we all want respect with that love? I have had love in different ways now in my life, but the cruelest form of love is when someone says they love you, but they disrespect you! Do you know what that feels like? How do you think God must feel when we reject Him?
John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[a] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
And He has done more for us than any of us deserve!
 
kurious_kathy said:
God's ways are not our ways. His thoughts are much higher than ours. And when it comes to love, don't you think we all want respect with that love? I have had love in different ways now in my life, but the cruelest form of love is when someone says they love you, but they disrespect you! Do you know what that feels like?
For the second time you avoid answering the question.

If your children rejected you and disrespected you would you want them to suffer? If it was within your power to end their suffering would you withhold that help until they accepted you?
How do you think God must feel when we reject Him?
So God is condemning people to eternal torment because of hurt feelings? He is supposed to be a Supreme Being, not an almighty sook.
 
kurious_kathy said:
God's ways are not our ways. His thoughts are much higher than ours. And when it comes to love, don't you think we all want respect with that love? I have had love in different ways now in my life, but the cruelest form of love is when someone says they love you, but they disrespect you! Do you know what that feels like? How do you think God must feel when we reject Him?
You can't have it both ways. If a god's ways are not our ways, such that we cannot judge him by our standards, then clearly we cannot understand how he feels when rejected either (for all we know, that may be what he wants).

Anyway, we're not saying we love this desert death cult god of yours, and yet giving him disrespect. We're not saying we even believe in his existence (in my case, at least - same category of entity as Santa, the Easter Bunny, or Invisible Pink Unicorns).

There seems to be a basic disconnect here. You seem not to believe it is possible that anyone doesn't believe in your chosen supernatural phenomenon, so those of us calling ourselves "atheists" you equate with "believers, but sinners". That is not the case. Threatening us with hell or other torments that we find equally fictional is logically going to be ineffective, but only once you understand that in fact we do regard it as fiction.

This should not be a difficult concept. There are billions of non-Christians in the world. They fall into such categories as Moslems, Buddhists, Taoists, Pagans, Wiccans, followers of Hindu, and of course atheists. Excluding the latter for the moment, it can probably be assumed that you do not acknowledge the existence of any of the supposedly divine entities espoused by the other religions. Can you therefore not understand that the exact same method by which you reject these religions is the process by which we reject yours? Even if you don't agree with the idea that the Christian god is a fable, it should at least be possible to accept that other people believe this.
 
SixSixSix said:
Even if you don't agree with the idea that the Christian god is a fable, it should at least be possible to accept that other people believe this.
I don't think that Kathy or Christian Dude can ever for a moment believe that there is such a thing as a genuine atheist, or a sincere Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist etc...

To do so would undermine the central pillar of their belief.
 

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