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October Stundie nominations

Just for the hell of it. I nominate McHrozni for the following.

McHrozni said:
Assuming they did, in fact, frame him, I'm certain there was evidence that can't be used in a trial, be it intelligence information, illegaly obtained evidence, or something like that; or evidence that would uncover an agent or two if used.
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Yes, even if the accused was framed, McHrozni is certain this must have been because the authorities had secret, incontrovertible evidence of guilt that they couldn't reveal. Even though that's pure speculation on his part. I mean, it's not like the cops never fitted anyone up for a crime just because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, I mean that never happens, does it....?

Oh wait....

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
Just for the hell of it. I nominate McHrozni for the following.




Yes, even if the accused was framed, McHrozni is certain this must have been because the authorities had secret, incontrovertible evidence of guilt that they couldn't reveal. Even though that's pure speculation on his part. I mean, it's not like the cops never fitted anyone up for a crime just because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, I mean that never happens, does it....?

Oh wait....

Rolfe.
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That's great. I think, on this basis, we should lock the Guildford 4 back up.
 
This popped up in the comments on an article about the Petrov Affair on the Australian ABC website (the article itself is quite interesting):

Given the links between ASIO, the CIA and Mossad - and the global spread of Murdoch/Fox - don't expect even the ABC to keep you up to speed.

I know stuff coming out of the US itself, e.g. via Architects & Engineers for Truth, Pilots for Truth, NYC Firemen for Truth and even some of the MSM, which the ABC will not touch.

Aside from that. What about the sub-prime/derivatives fraud in the US and how that WILL impact us?

Where has the ABC been in explaining this? Freely available - not just on the internet - in the US.

I can post links in US sites which I cannot do here, except in 'alternate media'.
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That's right - the truth is out there but I can't link to it because big media has decided to suppress info on an Australian web-site (but not US ones).

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/28/3050289.htm?site=thedrum its about 1/2 way down the comments section by a poster called Gerry Hiles
 
D'rok said:
Ack! I must be lysdexic. It should be a "naok". Which is completely unpronounceable, so, maybe totally appropriate.
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But on the plus side, we can retrofit it as a sort-of-anagram for "Not-A-Okay".
 
Does this count as a conspiracy: someone watching a 1928 Charlie Chaplin movie sees a person in the background holding something to their ear, probably an ear trumpet. Suddenly it's proof of TIME TRAVEL! Yes, it's a CELL PHONE IN 1928!

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread622165/pg1

Well if that aint interesting to someone who has no explanation for it than I don't know what is!

The person appears to be walking with their hand to their ear, and speaking at the same time.

Either it is a cellular device, or a wrist com thingie...but I have no idea how old those are.

The person SEEMS to be trying to hide their face, maybe even has a fake nose? That's the first thing I noticed "Wow what a big ol' shnoz!"
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Myron Proudfoot said:
Does this count as a conspiracy: someone watching a 1928 Charlie Chaplin movie sees a person in the background holding something to their ear, probably an ear trumpet. Suddenly it's proof of TIME TRAVEL! Yes, it's a CELL PHONE IN 1928!

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread622165/pg1
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Wow.

Either it is a cellular device, or a wrist com thingie...but I have no idea how old those are.
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This guy has no idea how old cell phones are, but he still somehow feels his opinion on this video merits attention? :confused:
 
RedIbis said:
It's not a poll, and the problem with simply saying no is that you are answering the question, "Could Bush have been right?"
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Now, why is this a Stundie? Well, why ever would anyone have answered the question "Could Bush have been right?"?


RedIbis said:
Bush had given the order and his first thought was that Flight 93 was shot down.



[qimg]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/jrubins101/United-Flight-93b.jpg[/qimg]

Could his first though have been right?

Discuss sans rancour.
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Do Stundie noms count as "rancour"?
 
tsig said:
Maybe he meant this:

Oxford University School is a private school founded in 1984 with an emphasis on academic excellence and small class size.

Located in Oxford Miss. which is also the home of 'Ole Miss" the University of Miss. but more likely he was just wrong.:)
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Good catch! I was unaware of that Oxford University.

If it please the omnipotent, I withdraw my nomination.
 
So, apparently, buildings violate the laws of physics by not moving.

WTC Dust said:
The equation for kinetic energy doesn't apply when a building is completely stationary before it gets destroyed, as was the case with the WTC buildings.
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Note that beachnut was talking about the KE of the airliners.

Dave
 
Quiproquo deserves a nom for this flagrant contradiction

If you read my first post in it's entirety, you will note that I contend we cannot know the truth about the 911 attacks. This is my initial proposition. I contend the conspiracy was designed this way (for example, if a secret military research device was used to bring down the towers, then we cannot by definition know about it and thus explain the events.).

I believe Man is being imposed one and only one way of perceiving knowledge around him, while there exists others. For example, we can perceive reality through a priori knowledge.

This belief in a priori knowledge does not fundamentally make Truthers paranoid, delusional, or ignorant, as Anti-Truthers contend
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http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6503143&postcount=74
 
dear God in heaven... ps, a German denier who uses Google translate to communicate outside his native language, seems to think that Jews have unique fire-resistant properties, and/or that Zyklon B needed to be superheated to a temperature hotter than the sun in order to outgas and kill everyone within 2 minutes.

At least, that's what I *think* this word- and equation-salad is meant to argue.

As I tried to explain quite several times, the Holocaust has taken place because he was possible. Indeed, a gasification just succeeded not at "usual" gas chamber temperatures separate only at "raised" gas chamber temperatures. This requirement results not only from a witness's statement ("the gas chambers were heated"), but from the thermo-dynamic considerations which can be verified in any manner even experimentally.

In addition only one single knowledge is necessary:

One cannot kill dead person. Or just, dead people one cannot gasify. Both succeeded in the famous gas chambers to Auschwitz Birkenau exclusively only with living ones. Jews. Never with Gipsies or members of other races. Auschließlich with Jews, because only Jews own a certain refractoriness. And this has been an unavoidable condition for the gasification of the Jews.

Why? Because it makes no sense to gasify dead people, the gas production had to have been finished at the latest in the death of the Jews. We know the qualities of cyclone B very exactly. Finally, several tins of cyclone granulate material were guaranteed by the Russians and were analysed. It concerned Kieselgur which was watered with prussic acid.

The vaporisation construction is known by the witness Kula also very well and has been shown even drawn.

Now one can combine the data and put the question to himself in which time the cyclone was gased out or how high the container wall must have been tempered with the cyclone within a certain time was gased out. Then this certain time is identical at the latest with the homicide time.

However, the homicide times are known to us very well. Not only Rudolf Höss could provide about that exactly information but also camp doctor Horst Fischer. Horst Fischer who supervised the gasifications and testified homicide times of 2-3 minutes is fine beside Rudolf Höss the best witness generally. That's why he was also stated by Prof. Jagschitz who was active as a consultant in the process against Gerd Honsik as a witness.


The following formula describes the processes in the cyclone granulate material which are made clear by these graphic arts:
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http://img819.imageshack.us/f/x5p9imir.png/


The whole vaporisation time (time) in this vaporisation energy transport restricted by warm management can be calculated with this formula:

Time = ( H + C * dT / 2 ) / ( 2 * Lambda * dT ) * S^2

H [J/m³] = 229,600,000.00 is the vaporisation warmth referring on the volume of the HCN in the cyclone B

C [J/m³K] = 247,234.00 is the specific warmth referring on the volume of the Kieselgurgranulats

Lambda [W / mK] = 0.2 is the warm conductivity of the Kieselgurgranulats

dT [K] is the temperature difference between container wall and the boiling temperature of the prussic acid

S [m] = 0,025 is the layer thickness the cyclone B Schüttung in the Kula container

Time = the time, until the prussic acid has evaporated completely.


The formula can be also moved, so that necessary temperature difference can be calculated itself at a certain vaporisation time (identically with the homicide time or less) between container wall and boiling temperature of the prussic acid:

dT [K] = H / ( ( Time * 2 * Lambda) / S^2 - C/2 )

Then the metal temperature simply arises by addition of the boiling temperature to the temperature difference:

Tblech = dT + 26°C


One will easily recognise that "2 minutes" homicide time could not be also reached with 31488 °C, so in the pure plasma state of the gas chamber. However, one recognises with the help of the formula and also the red curve that already with steel as a container material homicide times were achievable above 8 minutes with about 1500°C easily. With the shorter killing time, possibly about 6 minutes or shorter, one has maybe used Wolfram. It is not to be excluded that one more document is thought where Wolfram is noted at least by hand.

One more remark to the following graphic arts. The red curve is a Grenzkuve. This temperature must be also guaranteed in case of an other heating of the cyclone of container as by the gas chamber temperature. This means, with steel as a container wall a shorter homicide time than about 7 minutes could be achieved under no circumstances. Also not by an electric direct heating of the container. The white gas chamber temperature results only from the knowledge that for the transference of the warm achievement also a temperature difference must exist between gas chamber and container wall. Then at high temperatures a small temperature difference is already enough to irradiate the achievement.

Seen this would have been senseless, because one could not have used the refractoriness of the Jews with the cremation with a primitive direct heating. This was because the brilliant in this unique Holocaust.
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http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6217&sid=8d94d09193ed74ccf50aa5c94fdf33d4
 
carlitos said:
Fourbrick commenting on Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle.
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You obviously can't see the difference. The rifle wasn't the same it had a rope sling on it.

But it could have been the same rifle. See the difference?

I think you just took the stundie award back.
 
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