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Merged Obama on Leno

As for the OP, I'm glad he screwed up.

The guy's not the devil, as my local paper seems to think. (Communist baby-killer bent on destroying America, banning all guns, and enforcing atheism.)

Neither is he our saviour.

He's just a man in the White House. Just someone like us, but with a brilliance for law and politics.

And we're all better off figuring out how to work with him than against him.

Yes, he's young. Yes, he's new to the role, and to international politics.

If we put roadblocks in his way, we're shooting ourselves in the foot. Better to help him learn his lessons and get on with business.
 
I thought we had cracks in our butts.

Well, yes, we do, which means we have our cracks in a crack, and if we're on crack, then we may just crack up under the pressure.

But if we get our cracks out of the crack, that would be just crackerjack!

But still, we may find that a de-cracked crack may not be all it's cracked up to be.
 
Oh, that again?

Look, the reality is, this nation is staunchly market-driven capitalist.

Right now we've got our butts in a crack, and it may take some extraordinary measures to get us out.

If we let the cry of "Socialism!" be our bugaboo, we're going to hang ourselves.

Nobody in DC wants to permanently nationalize major industries.

In fact, right now, some big banks are practically begging to be nationalized, and this administration is rejecting them.

If it comes to that, then we may have to nationalize them temporarily. But nobody has the stomach for anything beyond that.

The torch and pitchfork crowd who get all riled up when someone yells "Socialism!" in a crowded recession are going to be a barrier to pragmatic policy.

Ack, you're everywhere!

Yes, the market was a staunchly market driven capitalist. Now all the capital is coming from the Government.

I know what you are saying Piggy, but you're talking about the way things were. You're not really addressing the words that are coming out of Obama's mouth.
 
The Special Olympics comment is, sadly, common humour for the average American. Good for him for apologizing to them even before the show aired, though.
 
So now calling a basketball team "Ho's" is the equivalent of pointing out that the participants in the Special Olympics usually don't perform in a "stellar" manner (which is why they're in the Special Olympics and not the real Olympics)? Should Leno also be faulted for insinuating the Detroit Lions stink? Because he made a joke about that the same night.
 
So now calling a basketball team "Ho's" is the equivalent of pointing out that the participants in the Special Olympics usually don't perform in a "stellar" manner (which is why they're in the Special Olympics and not the real Olympics)? Should Leno also be faulted for insinuating the Detroit Lions stink? Because he made a joke about that the same night.

You're right, but it has the added kicker of the special olympic bowler actually being really good.
 
Ack, you're everywhere!

Yes, the market was a staunchly market driven capitalist. Now all the capital is coming from the Government.

I know what you are saying Piggy, but you're talking about the way things were. You're not really addressing the words that are coming out of Obama's mouth.

I'm bad. I'm nationwide. ;)

The market is still capitalist. Government is pumping in trillions right now, but the system is still capitalist. It's simply not true that "all the capital is coming from the government".

Add to that, the feds want to get in and get out. They don't want to stay.

This is not a sea-change.

There is no Chavez here looking to permanently nationalize major industries.

The problem is, the market isn't working. It's broken. Obama is correct, as much as we don't like to hear it, that the feds are simply the only ones capable of taking action to get the system working again.

But everyone in DC wants the system to get working again. Everyone there appreciates the fact that the free market is the heart of our economy.

But right now, we're having to use CPR.

Still, the goal is to get the heart beating again, not to keep thumping on its chest forever.
 
Tim Malony is a bowler with down syndrome that has bowled a 300 more than once and averages 165. I would love to see Obama accept his challenge even though I admit Obama has better things to do than improve his bowling game much less study the college basketball.
 
Your President Obama said something seriously stupid and offensive, before millions (assuming it's accurately reported - couldn't quite hear what he said from the clip). There's always that danger in a folksy, man-of-the-people, informal TV interview.

Some of the defences of his remark in both the USA and the UK are beyond bizarre (I looked at the comments on CNN and TimesOnline). These particularly impressed:
Since tards all want equal rights, maybe they can go fight in Iraq and finish the war Geroge started? Or maybe we can have tards run AIG and see if they can do a better job than those big shots did? Face it folks, we are not all equal.

if someone has something to say aboput president obama then they need to get a life.....do you know how many people a day say the word retarted or slow people it is not funny at all and it is sad ...Obama didn't mean anyhting by it and i watched the show it didn't seem like he was really making fun of them at all

Sure, he made a joke about himself. Don't you think that disabled people can also make jokes about themselves.
Live and laugh and be happy. Just watch the man go!

Come on, be fair. He wasn't mocking disabled people, he was openly declaring that in many many ways, disabled people can be as good as or better than the American present.
(OK, some or all of these could be satirical but, sadly, I don't think so.)

Though, I do agree with all the comments saying that anyone (including the president of the USA) is entitled to make a mistake, and certainly should not be judged by one off-the-cuff remark. He apologised, and good for him. The problem is that large numbers of people are denying that there was anything wrong with the remark.

For the purposes of self-deprecation, Obama used the Special Olympics as a symbol of laughable sporting ineptitude (a more subtle interpretation would be that it's a wider metaphor for people in any field who aren't worthy to be judged by normal standards - don't know whether that makes it better or worse). I don't suppose he was stating a conscious belief that every mentally disabled person is a sporting klutz, but it probably does reflect some unconscious prejudice. Just as, for example, the school dinner lady who accidentally short-changed my (Jewish) son, and excused herself by saying "I wasn't trying to Jew you", probably had no conscious prejudice that all Jews are thieves and embezzlers.

It's actually a bit worse than if he'd simply called himself a retard, or a spaz, as he's specifically insulting the Special Olympics organisation along with (by implication) all mentally disabled people.
 
There is no Chavez here looking to permanently nationalize major industries.

No, but I'm from up here in the North and we're apparently a Socialist country. We don't really have nationalized major industries? I'm not sure, but from up here it looks like the US is even more Socialist than we are these days. I'll be honest though, I have very little knowledge in these matters.
 
You're right, but it has the added kicker of the special olympic bowler actually being really good.

True, Cartman had a similar problem but honestly would anyone have guessed that? I'm betting Obama doesn't put as much research into the Special Olympics as he does his March Madness brackets.
 
I can't go to your link right now and I've only heard a brief clip of it on the radio.

To me, it sounds like a self-depricating joke gone bad. The ironic thing about this is that all the people I've heard complaining about this are the same ones who usually are decrying the overly PC nature of our society, or at least that of liberals. The joke had "gone bad" because because it wasn't PC about the Special Olympics.
 
Not much of a gaff....

I'd suggest better ones..

"yes Jay, I'm a bit of a retard where bowling is concerned"

or

"yea, I bowl like a woman"

or

"yes....My bowling style is pretty gay"

I suggest picking of the nose while these are used would add extra points...
 
I can't go to your link right now and I've only heard a brief clip of it on the radio.

To me, it sounds like a self-depricating joke gone bad. The ironic thing about this is that all the people I've heard complaining about this are the same ones who usually are decrying the overly PC nature of our society, or at least that of liberals. The joke had "gone bad" because because it wasn't PC about the Special Olympics.

To be fair there are quite a few special olympians who are not amused and the special olympic committee guy was on, and he was not amused. He said Obama had called him prior to it going out and apologised.

Silly slip of the tongue and unecessary thing to have happened. Too focused on trying to be witty and off the cuff on a chat show IMO.
 
Still, the way Bush was raked over the coals for his speaking, Obama should have been more aware.

Unless people finally want to admit that having a microphone stuck up your butt 24/7 isn't that easy.
 
Still, the way Bush was raked over the coals for his speaking, Obama should have been more aware.

Unless people finally want to admit that having a microphone stuck up your butt 24/7 isn't that easy.

Hell, if you even just kept track of all the **** I said in these forums you could probably build a pretty convincing case that I was an insensitive jackass.

Still, he's president, I don't see why we can't hold him to utterly irrational standards that no human could live up to.
 

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