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Obama lied about Gruber, What else is new?

Just for comparison's sake: Nixon is rated as 25th in honesty. Not transparency but it stands to reason that the more honest a president is the less he or she has to hide.

CNN said:
"As much as is possible, we created a poll that was non-partisan, judicious and fair-minded," said Rice University professor Douglas Brinkley, who helped organize the survey of 65 historians for cable television network C-SPAN.
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http://legacy.c-span.org/PresidentialSurvey/Overall-Ranking.aspx
 
RandFan said:
This is so brilliant it is now mine to plagiarize. I want to nominate it. Is this yours?
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Mine indeed. (Blushes) Plagiarize away.

16.5 said:
Cool, that was the point of the thread! I deleted the rest because the next question is: what else did Obama lie about.

I said he lied about being the most transparent, now it is your turn!

What else did Obama lie about?

Go!
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Obama PREDICTED his would be the most transparent administration ever. He failed at that, probably because he didn't fully understand what he was getting into. And, regarding transparency, PZ Myers and Ed Brayton appear to agree with you. You commie.
 
Trebuchet said:
Mine indeed. (Blushes) Plagiarize away.


Obama PREDICTED his would be the most transparent administration ever. He failed at that, probably because he didn't fully understand what he was getting into. And, regarding transparency, PZ Myers and Ed Brayton appear to agree with you. You commie.
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He claimed it in 2013' maybe the lame duck years?
 
16.5 said:
The associated press? Yeah, the ap checks out.
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Since you actually checked the sources (followed the link to verify that the source actually says what is claimed) could you post a screen shot of the source so I can see it myself?
 
16.5 said:
He claimed it in 2013' maybe the lame duck years?
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BTW: Speaking of false dichotomies, assuming it's not the most transparent (not sure how you would measure that) we didn't have FOI prior to 1966. Further, FOI requests have exploded. In any event, why is it that we can't assume Obama was simply wrong?
 
I'm vastly more cynical than many, in that I know full well that administration officials *will* lie when put in front of cameras on many issues, particularly those related to national security. And naturally, this inclused Obama.

But, was it shown that Obama lied about Gruber?
 
16.5 said:
The part where he said his was the most transparant administration in history!

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ations-abject-failure-on-transparency/252387/

And that was before we found out that his Secretary of State was running the damn state department out of a server in her basement!:D

George Washington did not run the state department out of a server in his basement.

Qed
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Just to let everyone know, I completely agree that George Washington did not have any computer servers in his basement. State department or otherwise.

I am sure that he had at least a couple of slave servers in his basement, but definitely not any computer servers in his basement.
 
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