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Merged Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion Part II

Bubba said:
Come to think of it, speculation around the family being undercover due to their travels and activities is more interesting IMO than the birthplace thing.
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Well, you can speculate about anything. For example, I have just as much evidence to speculate that you're an undercover Soviet Sleeper agent tasked with assassinating Hillary Clinton if she wins the presidency. I can further speculate, with just as much evidence as any of the Birther crap, that the USSR never fell but rebranded in order to stockpile MORE nuclear weapons in preparation for a strike against the USA as soon as their undercover operative Donald Trump is in office, ensuring the USA does not respond with a nuclear salvo of its own.
 
halleyscomet said:
Well, you can speculate about anything. For example, I have just as much evidence to speculate that you're an undercover Soviet Sleeper agent tasked with assassinating Hillary Clinton if she wins the presidency. I can further speculate, with just as much evidence as any of the Birther crap, that the USSR never fell but rebranded in order to stockpile MORE nuclear weapons in preparation for a strike against the USA as soon as their undercover operative Donald Trump is in office, ensuring the USA does not respond with a nuclear salvo of its own.
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Nonsense.

State and debate one point from the circumstantial evidence I posted.
 
Mojo said:
Why not go for the full shapeshifting lizards thing? That hasn't been disproven either.
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Indeed, according to a Google search (apparently now the gold standard of journalistic research) there are quite a number of completely off-the-wall claims made about Obama. I glanced at the claims and, by no evidence I'm prepared to stand by, I assert that it's plausible they're all true. But it's equally plausible they aren't. But until they're all disproven, I'm going to talk only about one side of that plausibility tautology. Am I well informed now?
 
Bubba said:
State and debate one point from the circumstantial evidence I posted.
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But you aren't claiming anything. Why is anyone on the hook to respond to evidence of claims you haven't made? You've made it clear you are annoyed when your critics do that. And your "evidence" is just a generalized web search. That's not evidence for the claim, circumstantial or otherwise.
 
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JayUtah said:
Why would anyone have a burden to disprove speculation on your part that you won't even stand behind?
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Ya got me so why are you still here?

I think those pics of gramps Dunham with Soetero welcoming wannabe foreign diplomats with flower leis are kinda curious for a furniture salesman. AFAIK thats a typical agent's job.

I apologize if JAQ again offends anyone.
 
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Bubba said:
Ya got me so why are you still here?
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To determine what claim, if any, you are making and to test the claim according to evidence.

I think those pics of gramps Dunham with Soetero welcoming wannabe foreign diplomats with flower leis are kinda curious for a furniture salesman. AFAIK thats a typical agent's job.
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Are you claiming they were undercover agents?
 
Correction.

Apparently it was Mr. Obama Senior, in the photo, not Mr. Soetero.


Ya got me so why are you still here?

I think those pics of gramps Dunham with Soetero welcoming wannabe foreign diplomats with flower leis are kinda curious for a furniture salesman. AFAIK thats a typical agent's job.

I apologize if JAQ again offends anyone.
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JayUtah said:
To determine what claim, if any, you are making and to test the claim according to evidence.



Are you claiming they were undercover agents?
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Of course not. Only saying that back then undercover agents undoubtedly did that stuff all the time.
 
Bubba said:
Nonsense.



State and debate one point from the circumstantial evidence I posted.
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That's the exact response is expect from a commie assassin. Distraction. It's not even a GOOD distraction but fluffing the single most debunked conspiracy theory in history.

No commie, I'm onto you. We're all watching you now, and I'm contacting the state department about you. I'm sure the moderators here are old hands at turning web logs over to the Feds when they get a subpoena.
 
Bubba said:
Of course not. Only saying that back then undercover agents undoubtedly did that stuff all the time.
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It's still not clear whether you're claiming they were undercover agents. Saying that a person is doing something normally associated with a certain role would normally be construed as evidence they had that role. But you expressly disavow that interpretation, so you must have a different interpretation in mind. Further, since you are annoyed by having claims pinned on you that you didn't make, it would be foolhardy to address the evidence you raise with the expectation that you'd be obliged to answer.
 
... it becomes easy to complain about being forced to support a hypothesis one has technically not made. That sort of game is not really productive at getting to the truth, so I tend not to play it.
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Good point. Seen that lately?
 
Bubba said:
Of course not. Only saying that back then undercover agents undoubtedly did that stuff all the time.
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And how would YOU know what typical behavior is for undercover agents?

The only way you could have specialized knowledge like that is if you ARE one. You've as good as confessed.

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I'm watching you.
 
halleyscomet said:
That's the exact response is expect from a commie assassin. Distraction. It's not even a GOOD distraction but fluffing the single most debunked conspiracy theory in history.

No commie, I'm onto you. We're all watching you now, and I'm contacting the state department about you. I'm sure the moderators here are old hands at turning web logs over to the Feds when they get a subpoena.
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Thats not that bad for a same day reply.


Wrote it yerself didya?
 
halleyscomet said:
The only way you could have specialized knowledge like that is if you ARE one. You've as good as confessed.
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And if he's confessing to be a secret agent then we have no reason to trust him to tell us what it's really like to be a secret agent. Wouldn't he be obliged to disinform us, so as not to be able to recognize secret agent behavior?
 
halleyscomet said:
And how would YOU know what typical behavior is for undercover agents?

The only way you could have specialized knowledge like that is if you ARE one. You've as good as confessed.

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I'm watching you.
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In this and other threads he hints around that is 'knows' about the clandestine world. I wonder how he obtained that knowledge? Comic books perhaps?

So Bubba you seem to be claiming you have knowledge about clandestine actions. Care to explain your credentials and expertise on this?
 
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