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Obama and Conspiracy Theorists

INRM

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Here's an interesting hypothesis and one that I'm not even sure is all that out there

-> Under Bush & Cheney, there were a lot of things they were planning to do, stuff even more unethical and ugly than the stuff they actually did (Patriot II Act, potential plans for a staged terror attack), but often couldn't because occasionally damaging stuff leaked out, sometimes through truthers, various conspiracy theorists and dissidents

-> Since dissidents, truthers, conspiracy theorists have a tendency of exposing some of the most ugly plans the government/elites/whatever plan to do, Obama is now going after all of them by labling them threat to national security, whether they are violent or not. Since many were unhappy with the fact that Obama hasn't really done anything of use that generated a lot of anger when they were expecting true change, then Obama goaded them into increasingly outrageous acts.
-With Healthcare, someone connected to Rahm Emmanuel was the first person to make a comment about potential death panels. Conservatives are often outspoken types and often are pretty easy to goad into getting all lathered up, and circulating a rumor to them that the government might pull the plug on grandma is a surefire way to get them all fired up. After that you just let them do the rest (and Obama released a DHS report in 2009 shortly after getting into office labling conservatives as being a national security threat and lumping them in with right-wing militants and white supremacists -- or more accurately the first draft did, while the second draft eliminated the comment about conservatives but most likely DHS operated under that premise -- regardless the conservatieves read this and reacted. Basically Obama outlined the premise and let them conclude his premise).
-Obama's administration has been particularly focused on gaining control over the media and with that he could ensure that any crazy action carried out by anybody he or his administration don't like would immediately make the news and be used to point out an increasing threat from Tea-baggers, Truthers, CT-ists of various stripes, and dissidents.
-It's even possible that he has been actually goading the opposition through the media outlets themselves. For example many people have suspected Glenn Beck to be an agent provocateur, and he has done quite a job of whipping up certain right-wing groups into engaging in erratic behavior. Additionally, just recently the media have started talking about Tim McVeigh and wondering if his actions could shed light into the actions of certain dissidents. Of course this will be interpreted as saying that some dissidents are basically domestic terrorists like Tim McVeigh, and that's going to anger them too. Who wouldn't be angered by being compared to a guy who blew up a building and killed 168 men, women, and children?


INRM
 
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why is this in the 9/11 section? it belongs in just the root Conspiracy theory forum
 
-> Since dissidents, truthers, conspiracy theorists have a tendency of exposing some of the most ugly plans the government/elites/whatever plan to do, Obama is now going after all of them by labling them threat to national security, whether they are violent or not. Since many were unhappy with the fact that Obama hasn't really done anything of use that generated a lot of anger when they were expecting true change, then Obama goaded them into increasingly outrageous acts.

like what...the still non-existant FEMA Camps?

how about the H1N1 vaccine, that was supposed to kill 100 million Americans?

martial law been declared yet?

what actual "plan" have CTists exposed?

honestly INRM, your posts are pretty stupid. entertaining....but stupid.
 
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-> Under Bush & Cheney, there were a lot of things they were planning to do [...] but often couldn't because occasionally damaging stuff leaked out, sometimes through truthers, various conspiracy theorists and dissidents


Any examples of real and damaging information that has been revealed by truthers, general conspiracy theorists, or dissidents?

-> Since dissidents, truthers, conspiracy theorists have a tendency of exposing some of the most ugly plans the government/elites/whatever plan to do [...]


If I claimed you were planning to murder orphans this summer and you end up not murdering any orphans... does that mean I leaked damaging information that prevented you from carrying out your heinous plan?
 
Cl1mh4224rd,

Well there were claims of potential staged terrorist attacks by CT-ers. Imagine if one of them was true? While not CT-ers, dissidents and civil-rights activists did expose the Patriot II act for what it was...


INRM
 
Cl1mh4224rd,

Well there were claims of potential staged terrorist attacks by CT-ers. Imagine if one of them was true? While not CT-ers, dissidents and civil-rights activists did expose the Patriot II act for what it was...


INRM

The statement above should be stundied, but I'm afraid without the complete context it wouldn't have the same effect.
 
Well there were claims of potential staged terrorist attacks by CT-ers. Imagine if one of them was true?


Either my example didn't sink in or you're implicitly acknowledging the possibility that you actually are planning to murder orphans this summer...
 
Cl1mh4224rd,

Well there were claims of potential staged terrorist attacks by CT-ers. Imagine if one of them was true? While not CT-ers, dissidents and civil-rights activists did expose the Patriot II act for what it was...


INRM

I am exposing a potential terrorist attack right now:

Within 36 hours, Manhattan Island will be hooked up to 200 helicoptors and air lifted to Iraq, where it will be dropped onto the largest USA army base, totally wrecking the USA's current Middle East involvement and causing the USA economy to have a heart attack.

Now that I have publicly exposed this known proposed terrorist attack, it will NOT happen. Trust me.

Norm.
 
Cl1mh4224rd,

Well there were claims of potential staged terrorist attacks by CT-ers. Imagine if one of them was true? While not CT-ers, dissidents and civil-rights activists did expose the Patriot II act for what it was...


INRM

INRM, it's when you say stuff like this that makes me think you want to truly loose your freedoms, that you want millions to do in a terrorist attack, and you want to see tons of people arrested.

Who claimed there would be a staged terrorist attacks by CTers? Alex Jones?
 
like what...the still non-existant FEMA Camps?

how about the H1N1 vaccine, that was supposed to kill 100 million Americans?

martial law been declared yet?

what actual "plan" have CTists exposed?

honestly INRM, your posts are pretty stupid. entertaining....but stupid.

you are still in denial?
Glenn Beck wanted to debunk them, and he coudnt because they are real, he even cried and you deny his trueths!!!!!

:D
 
you are still in denial?
Glenn Beck wanted to debunk them, and he coudnt because they are real, he even cried and you deny his trueths!!!!!


So.... FEMA camps exist, the H1N! vaccine has killed 1/3 of the American population, and martial law has been declared?

I know I don't get out much, but geez...
 
What does that even mean?lol Oh yes! The evil Obama can even control his adverse media with Jedi mind tricks!...or something lol
 
INRM,
The "dissidents, truthers, and conspiracy theorists" do not have the political influence on government that you are entertaining here. They are marginal groups and are essentially ignored and irrelevant.
 

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