Nurse suspended for prayer offer

[six7s]

Some information for you:

Religion:

Quote:
1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
1. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Slow down Pisci and get off your high horse

Firstly, that ain't information for me - simply because it does not inform me of anything new whatsoever

Religion is ALL and ANY of those things. Your "definition" seeks to limit the word to a narrow version of the third, and then apply it to any and all religions. That's equivocation.

Secondly, stop putting words in my mouth

My "definition"? Bollocks

I described a loose, "first draft" of a criteria that I cobbled together simply in an attempt to show where my head's at

If you want/need to criticise me and prove how clever you are, then that's your problem

And...

Even if it was my "definition", I do NOT seek to limit the word to a narrow version of the third, and then apply it to any and all religions. For you to suggest that I do is bizarre in a pathetically sad kinda way

 

[Piscivore]

Slow down Pisci and get off your high horse

Firstly, that ain't information for me - simply because it does not inform me of anything new whatsoever

Well, you were struggling so to come up with a definition- or "criteria", if you prefer- that I thought you must be unaware there was one already in place. My apologies. Why is the one in place insuffcient for your needs?

Secondly, stop putting words in my mouth

Are these not your words?

Shirley Wicca is merely a minority-interest hobby, not a religion.

I'm thinking that its a religion if...
If the adherents, in accepting - on the basis of woo - a (typically) prescribed set of rules, attitudes, collectively equate to a significant 'force' as a lobby group on the fundamental issues such as health, education, peace/war, etc - the issues that have a real day-to-day and generation-to-generation impact on human rights and the associated responsibilities

If they are your words, what did you mean them to signify if not an attempt to define Wicca as something other than a religion?

My "definition"? Bollocks

I described a loose, "first draft" of a criteria that I cobbled together simply in an attempt to show where my head's at

Po-tay-to, po-tah-to. Why not use the "criteria" that's already in place?

Even if it was my "definition", I do NOT seek to limit the word to a narrow version of the third, and then apply it to any and all religions.

My apologies. I didn't realise you intended to create a special "criteria" that applied only to Wicca. Why do you feel Wicca warrants a special set of "criteria" to determine if it is a religion or not?

 

[Piscivore]

If you want/need to criticise me and prove how clever you are, then that's your problem

...And excuse me, but you're the one that chose to interject your thoughts upon a comment I made to biomorph.

 

[six7s]

We seem to be at crossed purposes... or is that porpoises?

Whatever, I have no desire to persist with what I see as a waste of time and bandwidth

 

[SusanB-M1]

Minor correction: the nurse in question was a community nurse, and the patient was not in hospital.

Ah, right; thank you. to save me plodding back through the posts to try to find the correct info, may I ask you please to mention where in fact the patient was? Thank you.

 

[six7s]

Ah, right; thank you. to save me plodding back through the posts to try to find the correct info, may I ask you please to mention where in fact the patient was? Thank you.

Susan, see the OP:

A Christian nurse from Weston-super-Mare has been suspended for offering to pray for a patient's recovery.
Community nurse Caroline Petrie, 45, says she asked an elderly woman patient during a home visit if she wanted her to say a prayer for her.<snip/>

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more here


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7863699.stm

 

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

This is a little off-topic but there are certain behaviors I'll give a nurse, doctor, technician, medic or EMT more leeway on and brush off more easily coming from them than other professional people.

When a nurse, physician or technician is rude, snappish, angry, cold or impatient, it doesn't bother me. And many often behave that way; maybe it's a New York thing. A nurse loses her temper when you do something wrong, you think "Single mother raising two kids in Camden, black woman working overtime at a tough job, she's allowed to get ticked off once in a while".

It doesn't give you anything if a nurse is fun and nice to talk to but doesn't know what she's doing. Same thing with a doctor- everyone would rather have an unpleasant but competent jerk taking care of their health than a cool guy who is not as competent.

 

[thegrave]

More!? You want more...

Can't see how this has anything to do with her religious freedom. She is employed (I assume) to provide nursing services not religious counseling.

That aside I think the trust's reaction is over the top, I wonder if there is anything more to this?

My wife works for the NHS & she was shocked to hear this 'nurse' was offering prayers. You are not allowed to do this type of thing in that profession. 'Love', 'Dear' & 'Bless You' are all taboo.

To my way of thinking, she had a dam cheek!

That poor old lady was probably scared stiff that this nurse was trying to give her the last rights & implying she didn't have too long to live.

It just goes to prove the arrogance of faithers that they ram their views down other's throats at every chance!