NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

[beachnut]

...It does not matter what 9/11 was considered, by law the FBI and NTSB need to investiagte and report on the crashes. PLEASE STOP THE LIES. ...

Source? No, by law the FBI investigates crime, the NTSB aircraft accidents. 11, 175, 77, and 93 were not aircraft accidents; this should be clear if you were a crack NSA analysts.

For 911 the world knew it was not an accident the first day. The NTSB does not investigate 911 terrorism. Are you trying to be the worse analyst? Have you got anything right about 911?

The NTSB helped the FBI as needed. No, the NTSB did not need to investigate, they were asked to do things, coordinate things they do best. FDR readouts etc.


So much for talk - evidence of what the NTSB did for 911 from the second we knew it was on purpose; the second impact at the WTC. Read it if you can.

The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 are under the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Safety Board provided requested technical assistance to the FBI, and any material generated by the NTSB is under the control of the FBI. The Safety Board does not plan to issue a report or open a public docket.​

The FBI does not investiagte either.

 

[jaydeehess]

I keep checking in here to see if the FOIA doc has appeared yet. It never ceases to amaze me what direction that the thread has taken.

Now U1 seems to believe that a pilot sitting facing foward has the range of movement and the clear path to jump out of the seat (assuming his seat belt is not fastened) and take on a person trained in hand to hand combat while keying the mic to alert ATC that an attempted violent hijacking is underway.
Apparently U1 believes that pilots are all cut from the same cloth as Rambo or Steven Segal. Not suprising if he has been swallowing that line of thought which is propigated by Rob (lil' rambo) Balsamo.

 

[TJM]

and if you do go on ignore then let these be the last words you hear for me:

In the entire history of this thread, did you ever notice that the only one who believes a word you say is you? Wonder why that is.

*puts ultima1 on ignore*

 

[nicepants]

Baby steps

Did you or did you not make the statement shown here

Yes, but this information is from the public internet. It is not from the actual document.

I have not discussed the contents of the document

In the post above which you admit is yours, did you make a statement regarding the contents of a NSA CRITIC?

 

[Gamolon]

The problem as I see it is this ULTIMA1.

The claim made by somone on the internet that there is a CRITIC document which states things about the intercept is just that. A CLAIM. The document has NOT been declassified and there is no actual proof as to the validity of this claim. As of now, it is an unproven story based on supposed information gained from a supposed informant on the inside.

Are you reading this? It is information supposedly leaked about a document that is supposedly STILL classified.

Now you come along and admit that you READ the classified document and it DOES contain the information stated above.

You are in effect giving us classified information and trying to say that since the internet story says it existed, this makes it unclassified and able to be discussed.

Do you see the problem with this?

 

[T.A.M.]

Ultima1:

please address Gamelon's post #1896 above. Why is your list of supposed clearances a direct copy (letter for letter, spacing for spacing) of an online available list?

TAM

 

[Reheat]

Why is your list of supposed clearances a direct copy (letter for letter, spacing for spacing) of an online available list?

TAM

That has an easy answer. He doesn't have a clue and doesn't possess the clearance he boasts he has.

For onlookers who might still have doubt, how can one have access to 6 Compartments of Classified Information without having the added Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) access in addition to a TS clearance.

The simple answer is that it's impossible. This guy is a LIAR and a FRAUD.

 

[Baylor]

This issue was settled long ago when someone asked ULTIMA1 how he was able to make the long commute to New Oxford, PA to NSA headquarters at Fort Meade, MD and still work a 12 hour shift, come home and post at the JREF for a few hours a day. He said it was only an 1 hour 47 drive per day (taken from mapquest). Whoever ULTIMA1 is, he has no idea that when you drive to work, you have to drive home too.

 

[Mince]

This issue was settled long ago when someone asked ULTIMA1 how he was able to make the long commute to New Oxford, PA to NSA headquarters at Fort Meade, MD and still work a 12 hour shift, come home and post at the JREF for a few hours a day. He said it was only an 1 hour 47 drive per day (taken from mapquest). Whoever ULTIMA1 is, he has no idea that when you drive to work, you have to drive home too.

At the height, last Summer and Fall, before his string of bannings, he was posting over 100 times per day. He was consistently spending more than a few hours each day on just this message board, mostly during what would be---or should be---NSA working hours.

4 hours driving to (and from) work (his admission)
12 hours of work (his admission)
3 hours JREF (being conservative)
1 hour to get ready (presumably)
1 hour to eat (presumably)
3 hours sleep per night only!? (presuming he does nothing else that is not listed above, adheres to the prescribed times, and falls asleep immediately)

This guy doesn't work for the NSA. I wonder if there's any kind of prohibition against claiming you do when you do not, or even a prohibition against claiming you do when you actually do, considering the nature of the business. Ignoring his juvenile demeanor and penchant for misspellings, I'm pretty sure an NSA agent wouldn't be on public internet message boards advertising his employment and security status. If it's not against the law, certainly it's against NSA policy and definitely against the tenets of common sense.

 

[Mr.D]

Back to the topic (remember that?)

I have no experience with FOIA requests. Is it unusual for one to take this long? According to the letter linked in the OP, it's been well over six months since the "search for records responsive to your request" was completed.

 

[Mr.Herbert]

This guy doesn't work for the NSA. I wonder if there's any kind of prohibition against claiming you do when you do not, or even a prohibition against claiming you do when you actually do, considering the nature of the business. Ignoring his juvenile demeanor and penchant for misspellings, I'm pretty sure an NSA agent wouldn't be on public internet message boards advertising his employment and security status. If it's not against the law, certainly it's against NSA policy and definitely against the tenets of common sense.

When I reported him last week to NSA security. I mentioned to them that he is more than likely NOT NSA. I then asked them if it were illegal to present yourself as a Government Employee with Top Secret clearance.

She didn't respond. Seeing that his ignorance still spreads daily, I highly doubt the NSA cares about what he is doing. This tells me that he is a 100% fraud.

 

[JimBenArm]

I imagine all the real NSA types reading this thread daily, and laughing their asses off at Ultima's claims.
All his posturing, chest-thumping and bravado, now with added ignorance, at no extra charge!

 

[Mince]

Back to the topic (remember that?)

Barely. The topic (was), "NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon." After 7 months, 39 pages and 1,910 posts, the "topic," as set out in the OP, remains unfulfilled. Shall we keep discussing the alleged forthcoming document, long overdue, or should we ad lib the thread because you can ask "where is the document?" only so many times and in only so many ways, and the OP can answer "It is coming." only so many times and in so many ways?


*emphasis added

 

[JimBenArm]

Barely. The topic (was), "NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon." After 7 months, 39 pages and 1,910 posts, the "topic," as set out in the OP, remains unfulfilled. Shall we keep discussing the alleged forthcoming document, long overdue, or should we ad lib the thread because you can ask "where is the document?" only so many times and in only so many ways, and the OP can answer "it is coming" only so many timies and in so many ways?


*emphasis added

*where?

 

[Mince]

*where?

Barely. The topic (was), "NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon."

It was originally italicized. Obviously, it doesn't stand out quite as well as bolding.

 

[JimBenArm]

It was originally italicized. Obviously, it doesn't stand out quite as well as bolding.

Of course not, when I don't have my glasses on!

You do know this is still all your fault, right?

 

[T.A.M.]

This issue was settled long ago when someone asked ULTIMA1 how he was able to make the long commute to New Oxford, PA to NSA headquarters at Fort Meade, MD and still work a 12 hour shift, come home and post at the JREF for a few hours a day. He said it was only an 1 hour 47 drive per day (taken from mapquest). Whoever ULTIMA1 is, he has no idea that when you drive to work, you have to drive home too.

I am guessing he is posting at work, where ever work is. His internet trail seems to indicated that Roger Misner is a 47 year old living in Oxford PA. Beyond that, I have seen no proof. Beyond that, I believe nothing he says at this point.

TAM

 

[Sabrina]

Does it count toward winning the million if someone is just THAT predictable?

*points to her post saying U1 would accuse her of lying about having a clearance*

I mean seriously... a blind man could've seen that coming... but I still predicted it and was right... so do I win the million?

 

[jaydeehess]

Does it count toward winning the million if someone is just THAT predictable?

*points to her post saying U1 would accuse her of lying about having a clearance*

I mean seriously... a blind man could've seen that coming... but I still predicted it and was right... so do I win the million?

Predicting that the Sun will rise and set and other such certainties , do not count.

 

[funk de fino]

Please stop the lies. Flight 800 was originally considered a crime, thats why the FBI and NTSB spent time doing criminal investigations.

You said 800 is considered a crime. That is a lie. It is considered an accident and this is why the NTSB carried out an air accident investigation. thats why you can go and read it from their site.

It does not matter what 9/11 was considered, by law the FBI and NTSB need to investiagte and report on the crashes. PLEASE STOP THE LIES.

Yes it does matter. The NTSB did not carry out an aircraft accident investigation on the 911 planes because they were not accidents.

Please be mature enough to admit as shown through facts the F-4 is more then 50% steel. STOP THE LIES.

You are lying again. F4 are not mostly made of steel. You were not what you say you were in the USAF. You were a tyrekicker for a few year at most.