NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

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I'm curious why ULTIMA1 is afraid to go read these followup reports to the Critic he "supposedly" read.

I'm betting 16.5 will post his information way before U1 does....then U1's report will just be a link to 16.5s saying his information is the same. :D
 
Please look up the Flight 800 criminal reports done by the FBI and the NTSB.

If you read the law concerning a aircraft craash being considered a crime scene you will find that the FBI becomes the lead investigating agency with the NTSB providing technical assistance, that also means reports.




Proven wrong again.
What does flight 800 (circumstances of the crash :a hint) have to do with what happened to the planes on 9/11? If you could see the difference you would know why your wrong.
 
Why do you have to do personal attacks now, ROger? Why are you afraid to answer this question?

Have you read the followup reports to the critics? If you do indeed have access to the main report, you would have acceess to those followup reports.

Is it because you never actually read that report? You really dont have clearance?
 
Am I correct in stating that the Critic itself is a classified document?


Only parts of it.


This is a pure unadulterated BS answer. This statement alone proves one of two things (actually both). You are NOT who you say you are and/or you are very STUPID.

Even if there is ONE WORD in a document that is considered to be classified, the ENTIRE DOCUMENT is classified to the same level. Anyone who has a Security Clearance would know this with no exceptions unless what I said above were the case....
 
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Please look up the Flight 800 criminal reports done by the FBI and the NTSB.

TWO 800 was not a criminal investigation. It was deemed an accident.Try reading it.
If you read the law concerning a aircraft craash being considered a crime scene you will find that the FBI becomes the lead investigating agency with the NTSB providing technical assistance, that also means reports.




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And the reports are under the juristiction of the lead agency. Therefore, it is up to the lead agency to release them, not the NTSB.
 
I have not discussed the contents of the document.

Did you or did you not make the statement shown here:

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:confused: Have you ignored every single post I've made in the past???

Go back and look. I've done enough work for you. If you want to invoke adulthood in your posts, practice some yourself. Go back and look. Do your own work. The links have been provided. You're the one ignoring the information.

For everyone else who wants to be serious about studying just some of the real information regarding United Airlines 93, here it is. I'm no longer aiming this at Ultima since many links and sources of information have already been identified for him, only to be ignored. Which, by the way, is not the sign of a serious researcher.


The Moussaoui trial evidence site has many links to individual pieces of evidence regarding FL93, including but not limited to:
Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller was reported to have identified victims. That office as well as the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology participated in the victim identification. Should someone be serious about FOIA'ing them, and not just blowing smoke about it, those are two organizations that were involved and have information. Info for the AFIP can be found at the link above. Info for the Somerset County Coroner is available at this site.

Tapes exist of NORAD/NEADS and FAA air traffic control conversations. They can be found at Vanity Fair's "The NORAD Tapes" site, as well as at 9/11 Myths page on the same subject.

An NTSB report on the Flight Data Recorder can be found here. And their flight path study can be found here.

Eyewitness accounts have been centralized on Mark Robert's Flight 93 page, along to links to originating articles or sources. Also, as secondary and tertiary sites citing sources and facts, Mike's 911 Myths Flight 93 page as well as Ref's covering the same contains valuable information. None of it is primary - Mike W. and Ref only gathered and republished information; they're not direct information sources on 9/11 itself - but it is still useful information for understanding the breadth of information available about FL93.

Note that this only scratches the surface. Best thing for you other readers is to start from Mark Robert's site. None of it is primary information - like Mike W. and Ref, Mark had only gathered information from other sources, although that is invaluable in and of itself. But the worth of his site is that you know what those primary and secondary sources are, so you can query them directly.

Ultima has got to know this. But he'd rather take our refusal to do his work for him and insinuate the information doesn't exist to begin with. It does. Start from there, and the Moussaoui trial evidence, and the other link provided and go from there. While you're at it, go back through this thread and find any links to real information from Ultima; only ones I recall were to other conspiracy peddling sites, not to primary sources like the NTSB reports or the trial evidence like I've provided. Anyway, once you do that, you'll understand why we're so scornful of Ultima's ignorance on the topic. The information is there, but he refuses to acknowledge it. That's deliberate ignorance. And it's inexcusable.
 
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Some posts split to AAH.

Keep the thread on topic. And attack the argument, not the arguer.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Gaspode
 
Same way i do research and FOIA request.

But you do not understand, I do not need them to prove to me who carried out 9/11. The plethora of evidence tells me this. If you feel, for you, that it is not enough, then why have you not asked for those reports from the FBI yourself?

And if you have asked, what was their response?

TAM:)
 
I am still waiting for you to answer the question about my making a security breach by posting information that can be found on the interent. Unless your saying the websites that contain the information have made a security breach too?

As stated before becasue you cannot figure out where i work tells me that you are either very immature or very closed minded. Which is it?

Well, let me just put myself in your shoes for a moment:

1.) I read a classified document at work.

2.) Later (or maybe even prior to No. 1 above) I see something posted on the internet confirming the information I read in the classified document in No. 1.

Should I:

a.) Report to my local security personnel and let them know someone has posted what I believe is classified information on the internet?

or

b.) Post on various 9/11 conspiracy theory sites confirming that I believe the information (in No. 2 above) is correct because I've read a classified document containing similar information?

Doesn't a.) seem like the right answer to you? Seems like the right answer to me.
I feel somehow jilted here, Ultima1. You seem to respond to everyone, except those who post things you don't like to respond to.

Curious that.
 
But we do have audio of the intercept and shoot down. OOPS there goes your comparision.
We have the audio of the terrorist flying the plane into the ground.
We have the audio of the pilots being killed by terrorist.
We have audio of the passengers planning an attack on the terrorists.
We have audio of the passengers attacking the terrorists.
We have the FDR showing the terrorist flying the plane into the ground.
We have the audio not showing any missile, or talk of an intercept.
We have zero ATC showing intercept.
We have evidence showing flight 93 crashed as one piece into the ground.
We have DNA in the hole.
You deny evidence, we have evidence.
So we do have audio of Flight 93! Comparison?
 
With all due respect to everyone but ULTIMA1, 36 pages of utter crap. Sorry I have to add to it to say this.
 
No i have not. I have an NSA TS/SI clearence with 6 compartments and know what i am talking about.

This is for the benefit of any lurkers who might still have a fleeting feeling that ULTIMA1 is who he says he is.

1. The National Security Agency DOES NOT, I REPEAT, DOES NOT grant clearances.

2. There is no such thing as a TS/SI clearance. I'd be willing to overlook this as another one of your gratuitous typos.

3. There would be no need for an analyst to be read into six compartments. Hell, I don't even think the agency that grants clearances administers six different progams. Given the NSA's mission there are only two an analyst would need.

These tidbits, plus what Reheat rubbed your nose in earlier, are basically the final nail in the coffin of your credibility.

Mods, I consider this to be on topic. Reason: The only evidence ULTIMA1 can offer in support of the existence and validity of this document - since he hasn't received it yet - is his word as a supposed "insider" at NSA. Until he gets the document in hand, his argument IS his credibility.
 
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Ultima, are you saying that you don't have a paper from the NSA that says Flight 93 was shot down?

Just to recap:

1. He's now backed off from saying he's seen proof of 93 being shot down. Now it's a plane believed to be 93 that was intercepted, but the document doesn't clarify that. It could've been UAL 23 or Delta 1989 for all he knows.

2. He claims that this corroborates his claim.

As I've said previously; This is all he's got.
 
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