NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe 16.5 was talking about your FOIA request, ULTIMA. All he's done is confirmed that your request has a Case Number.

But wow, another whole month before anything shows up? Moving at the speed of government!
 
I'm not sure what the significance of this NSA report is supposed to be. Assuming it really exists, and really says what it is claimed it says, all it proves is that the NSA gets things wrong.

UA93 was not intercepted. Period. An NSA CRITIC does not trump radar data.
 
gumboot said:
I'm not sure what the significance of this NSA report is supposed to be. Assuming it really exists, and really says what it is claimed it says, all it proves is that the NSA gets things wrong.

UA93 was not intercepted. Period. An NSA CRITIC does not trump radar data.
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I agree. I still think that ULTIMA1 is making the whole thing up based on what he read on some stupid website.
 
In the veritable flood of information that flows from agency to agency and unit to unit through message traffic, it is indisputable that some of it is going to be erroneous. Even if it was "chopped" by multiple analysts, it's still being analyzed by humans who will make mistakes. Especially given the Mongolian cluster-hump of confusion on that day with who was talking to who, what they were saying, and what in God's name is actually happening here?!? It's conceivable that some of these erroneous and confused early reports passed from net to net on circuits that NSA monitors...and SOP mandated the timely release of an NSA CRITIC.

This is all moot, however, because as gumboot pointed out, radar data trumps it. Radar data will prove what and who was in the air when, whether or not any track separation indicative of a AAM launch or close order track-convergence consistent with a 20mm kill occurred. It did not.
 
gumboot said:
UA93 was not intercepted. Period. An NSA CRITIC does not trump radar data.
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Sorry to say but an NSA Critic trumps everything.


Gee, you really do not know anything about NSA and what they do.

Remember KAL Flight 007, the airliner that the Russian MIG shot down?

Well it was NSA that intercepted the radio traffic from the plane to ground control. They listened to everything going on between the pilot and ground control. Everything including the orders to shoot down the plane and the missile launch.
 
I'm taking the thread off moderated status. If it erupts into bickering again, it will be put back without warning.
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chillzero said:
I'm taking the thread off moderated status. If it erupts into bickering again, it will be put back without warning.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero
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Well thank you Chill, i think everyone will be civil.
 
A Critic report is the highest intelligence report that intelligence agencies can issue. Being sent at Flash precedence, it overrides everything else on the net. A ground station would be unable to override the Critic. The Critic reaches its designated receiver within 10 minutes (often less)
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Sorry to say but an NSA Critic trumps everything.


Gee, you really do not know anything about NSA and what they do.

Remember KAL Flight 007, the airliner that the Russian MIG shot down?

Well it was NSA that intercepted the radio traffic from the plane to ground control. They listened to everything going on between the pilot and ground control. Everything including the orders to shoot down the plane and the missile launch.
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"They" ? Dont you mean "We" ?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Sorry to say but an NSA Critic trumps everything.
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You're not very bright, are you?

ASSUMING that there is an NSA Critic (big assumption) that says "X" doesn't make "X" true. What if there was an NSA Critic that said Saddam had WMD's in IRAQ? What if there had been an NSA Critic that said AA77 was going to crash into the White House? Both of these hypothetical cases would illustrate that they were simply reporting on information that later proved to be false.

Do you categorically state that anything, and everything in an NSA Critic MUST BE TRUE?

Not that it matters. When you finally get a response to your FOIA request it will not state what you think it states. You've already proven time and time again you are incapable of interpreting data logically.
 
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You're not very bright, are you?
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You really do not know how the Critic system works.


They are gathering information from several locations and probably listneing in on everythign going on.
 
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Here is a letter from the NSA FOIA office that they have the NSA "Critic" that i asked for that states that Flight 93 was intercepted.

This contridicts the official story that no planes were near Flight 93.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/phixer6/911/FLI93-2.jpg?t=1222974166
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At yo ever goiing to laern how to spel?

The sad thing is, if this guy does indeed work for the NSA, in ANY capacity, even with such poor spelling skills, it is no wonder 9-11 was able to take place. We have MORONS working at our most sensitive sections of government.
 
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ULTIMA1 said:
A Critic report is the highest intelligence report that intelligence agencies can issue. Being sent at Flash precedence, it overrides everything else on the net. A ground station would be unable to override the Critic. The Critic reaches its designated receiver within 10 minutes (often less)
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Do you think it's wise to be discussing this information on an internet forum?

I'd advise you to discuss what you're posting here (and I assume other places) with your security specialist to make sure you won't get yourself in trouble.

If you lose your security clearance over something like this, you might be disciplined or lose your job.

Don't do something silly that could have a major impact on your livelihood.
 
"http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1222974166"

I see nothing in that document that contradicts the official story. Can someone please clarify? To me it just looks like an FOIA request and not any actual documents stating anything. How does this prove anything?

Also, it should be noted that the official story absolutely does not claim there were no planes near flight 93. It was even the use of a nearby plane that confirmed that flight 93 had crashed.
 
Is this the article,here, that started you down this path?
“WMR has received another confirmation, bringing the total number to three, that United Flight 93, hijacked on the morning of September 11, 2001, was shot down over rural Pennsylvania by U.S. Air Force jets scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland. There are also reports that one F-16 scrambled from Langley Air Force Base in Virginia returned to base minus one air-to-air missile but the National Security Agency CRITIC report specified the interceptors that downed United 93 took off from Andrews.
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http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3568.shtml

This Madsen fellow is interesting...

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

Have not read whole thread,sorry if this has been covered.
 
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