NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

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Roger,

Even though I have you on ignore, it's clear that you aren't actually answering questions with real answers. So I'll reiterate nicepants' request from a couple of pages back and a couple of pages before that and which I think you've been ducking for some time.

To whit:


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nicepants said:
In the post above which you admit is yours, did you make a statement regarding the contents of a NSA CRITIC?
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This is the last time i answer this question, so please be mature enough to accept it.

Yes, the post is mine as repeated from the public internet talking about the NSA critic.
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You didnt quote the "public internet" in that reply....you appeared to be stating it matter of factly, as an NSA analyst who has seen the report.

Are you changing your story now?
 
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Good lord, how old are you? :D

Want to meet by the bicycle racks after school now? :LOL:

Are you so afraid to back up your posts? Poor Roger...
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Yes, since during a criminal investigation the NTSB has to investigate and report as it assist the FBI.
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You said the NTSB had to do a report. It is the FBI investigation.

(NTSB said) The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 are under the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Safety Board provided requested technical assistance to the FBI, and any material generated by the NTSB is under the control of the FBI. The Safety Board does not plan to issue a report or open a public docket.
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ULTIMA1 said:
... NTSB spent time doing criminal investigations.

It does not matter what 9/11 was considered, by law the FBI and NTSB need to investiagte and report on the crashes...
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NTSB does not do criminal investigations. The NTSB does not have to report.
The NTSB did not do an investigation into 911, the FBI did.

ULTIMA1 said:
I hate to tell you but both flight 800 and the plane crashes on 9/11 are both considered crimes.
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Wrong; 800 was an accident.

ULTIMA1 said:
You need to read the law when it comes to aircraft crashes that are considered crime scenes.

Also the fact that the NTSB needs to make reports on aircraft crash scenes and thier causes.
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The NTSB does not need to report the cause when the cause is criminal. You are self debunking.

ULTIMA1 said:
... 2. Official NTSB reports matching all parts found to all the planes on 9/11. ...
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(NTSB said) The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 are under the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Safety Board provided requested technical assistance to the FBI, and any material generated by the NTSB is under the control of the FBI. The Safety Board does not plan to issue a report or open a public docket.
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You say this but you post junk and mess it up.

Like you messed up the Critic you said you read and leaked classified information. You are not allowed to talk around or about classified information like you are doing.
 
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ULTIMA1 said:
If i post the link then you must leave the forum forever, are you ready to accept the challenge?
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In this forum the unwritten rule seems to be that if one is proven wrong he admits his error/mistake, and moves on. No need to leave the forum.

Don't you think this is a better idea?
 
Ultima1 said:
Yes, the post is mine as repeated from the public internet talking about the NSA critic.
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So you admit that you've seen said CRITIC. Correct? And what is this qualifier "repeated from the public internet" supposed to change? That clearly was your posting, not a repeat by anyone else. The security ramifications, I won't go into as I'm not a Yank and I'm not in the Security Industry. However, common sense would suggest that a sovereign nation and its agents don't prance about revealing secret information. Bad for the health, I should think (not to mention future employment prospects).

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ULTIMA1 said:
This is the last time i answer this question, so please be mature enough to accept it.

Yes, the post is mine as repeated from the public internet talking about the NSA critic.
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You were discussing the contents of a NSA CRITIC - a document you claim is classified.

Are you permitted to discuss the contents of classified documents with people who do not have the appropriate clearances?
 
Actually, nicepants? I think it's probably best to let this thread slide until or unless there is anything forthcoming on the FOIA request front (which I expect we'll get a verifiable accounting of from 16.5) when/or/as/if it comes to pass.

Ultima1 is your garden-variety narcissist of the 'I don't care what you say about me so long as you pay attention to me' model. Best to keep your powder dry for such arguments that are more likely to render intelligent discussion as "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin" or "Does this dress make me look fat" or "Will the Leafs take a Cup in the 21st Century?".

HTH
Fitz
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Why would i give immature people like you information like that? You guys would have to show me that you are mature enough to have it.

Specailly since i have posted more the enough information to prove who i am.
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Nice dodge.

Absolute proof you are fraud. When someone challenges you with a way to prove beyond a doubt that you are who you say you are, you back out.

Not surprised...

Oh and before you say it,

I know, I am like so totally immature and childish, and I need to like grow up...like totally. I'm like so totally close minded.

TAM:D
 
From ClearanceJobs.com, a website devoted to helping people find a job that requires a security clearance:

What are the security clearance levels?
Security clearances can be issued by many United States government agencies, including the Department
of Defense (DoD), the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Energy (DoE), the Department
of Justice, and the Central Intelligence Agency. DoE clearances include the “L,” and “Q” levels. DoD issues
more than 80% of all clearances. There are three levels of DoD security clearances:
• Confidential
• Secret
• Top Secret.
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SOURCE

From Military.com:

Classification Levels National security information that requires protection against unauthorized disclosure are classified at one of the following three levels.


Top Secret is applied to information that reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security if disclosed to unauthorized sources.

This level needs to be reinvestigated every 5 years.*


Secret is applied to information that reasonably could be expected to cause serious damage to the national security if disclosed to unauthorized sources.

This level is reinvestigated every 10 years.*


Confidential is applied to information that reasonably could be expected to cause damage to the national security if disclosed to unauthorized sources. The vast majority of military personnel are given this very basic level of clearance.

This level needs to be reinvestigated every 15 years.*


* Reinvestigations are more important than the original investigation because those individuals who have held clearances longer are more likely to be working with increasingly critical information.
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From GovCentral:

Classification Levels
National security information that requires protection against unauthorized disclosure are classified at one of the following three levels.

Top Secret Clearance
Top Secret is applied to information that reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security if disclosed to unauthorized sources.

This level needs to be reinvestigated every 5 years.

Secret Clearance
Secret is applied to information that reasonably could be expected to cause serious damage to the national security if disclosed to unauthorized sources.

This level is reinvestigated every 10 years.

Confidential Clearance
Confidential is applied to information that reasonably could be expected to cause damage to the national security if disclosed to unauthorized sources. The vast majority of military personnel are given this very basic level of clearance.

This level needs to be reinvestigated every 15 years.
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I trust I've made my point to the rational, sane people in the thread. *bows*
 
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ULTIMA1 said:
For the immature and closed minded. Maybe someone among you will be mature enough to admit there is a TS/SI clearence.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread182353/pg1

List of U.S. security clearance terms
Top Secret-SI / TK / B / +
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No dice.

Those abbreviations at the end aren't given to someone who doesn't have a TS/SCI. It wouldn't make sense for them to. Can you tell me why that is?

Given that you linked this list from ATS, its validity as an actual itemization of what the government issues is highly suspect. There are some correct terms and abbreviations in it, but it's contextually inaccurate.

For example, you listed these:

Top Secret-SSBI / CI Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / G / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / Lifestyle Poly
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI/ SI / TK / G
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / SI / TK / G / B / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI / TK / HCS
Top Secret-SSBI / SCI-B
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The SSBI may or may not be used by various organizations in documenting the clearance levels of its personnel, as it describes something involved in the procurement process of a security clearance, and less so the clearance itself. (Single Scope Background Investigation) Same thing with the various polygraph tests involved.
 
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