November Stundie Nominations

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Waterboarding isn't torture, no wait it is, no it isn't, yes it is!

Originally Posted by Toontown View Post
Hmm. Must not be very effective torture. He endured it 183 times and didn't give up anything? Nothing at all? And you would know everything he gave up because ___________(fill in the blank)How do I know you're not just another internet political hack, pretending to know information the CIA would never give your little insignificant ass? I feel quite free to do neither, since the burning question of whether waterboarding is subjectively torture or is effective has no bearing on my position.

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Sheikh-Mohammed didn't seem to think it was all that torturous, having endured it 183 times without (according to your sources) giving up a damn thing. And there are also assertions afoot that he mocked waterboarding as a torture method and made light of it.

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Now, if you can only show where I actually denied that waterboarding is torture

Originally Posted by Toontown View Post
Remove motive and extenuating circumstances and waterboarding is waterboarding. But why would you do that? Waterboarding is waterboarding anyway. Why not go ahead and acknowledge motive and circumstances? Too complicated?

Those terrorists were waterboarded in an attempt to extract life-saving information from them. I don't know why the Japanese waterboarded. But I do know they did a lot of torturing out of pure meanness, such as tossing Chinese babies up in the air and skewering them on their bayonets.

Originally Posted by Toontown View Post
There is not enough evidence. There is not enough evidence that waterboarding is objectively torture.

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Bush's counsel could recall the words of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, veteran of 183 waterboardings and derisive mocker of the method, to cast serious doubt on the torturousness of it. There is not even sufficient evidence that Bush knew waterboarding was subjectively torture in the minds of many (it's greatest victim Khalid excluded), when he authorized it.

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Bush allowed waterboarding after being advised that it was not torture. Then he ordered it stopped when it was suggested that it might be deemed torture.

 

[CORed]

Although the horrible quality of the video is sufficient to give a guffaw or two, the tagline at the end was funnier.

"Know the truth and the truth you free"

Yet another example of english as she is goodly spoke.

He forgot to proof read to see if he any words out.