It was indeed. By a country that could not produce cell phones.
For that matter, the Apollo launches were also performed by a country that could not produce cell phones.
It was indeed. By a country that could not produce cell phones.
For that matter, the Apollo launches were also performed by a country that could not produce cell phones.
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Everybody will eventually die. But if we don't as nations, large groups, ethnicities, and just individual people, start behaving rationally and decently to each other, we'll see nuclear, biological, chemical, and radiological attacks that will leave millions dead. Humanity could very well wind up as a minor species on this planet, if not an extinct one.
Everybody will eventually die. But if we don't as nations, large groups, ethnicities, and just individual people, start behaving rationally and decently to each other, we'll see nuclear, biological, chemical, and radiological attacks that will leave millions dead. Humanity could very well wind up as a minor species on this planet, if not an extinct one.
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Making satilites isn't hard. Look at Prospero X-3 for example. Some solar cells a tape recorder and a radio transmitter. Put into orbit by a Black Arrow rocket.
Probably mostly lauched for reasons of national pride.
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Sputnik...the conspiracy revealed!
No, Sputnik was a hologram, created by Zionist Masonic bankers, to force the United States into a space race that would earn them more profits. There were no space shots...it was all holograms.
But when Kennedy proposed going to the moon, things got out of hand. So the bankers had Kennedy shot, and they had to fake the moon landings. Notice that they took place on the same day as Chappaquiddick... coincidence or conspiracy? You decide!
No, Sputnik was a hologram, created by Zionist Masonic bankers, to force the United States into a space race that would earn them more profits. There were no space shots...it was all holograms.
But when Kennedy proposed going to the moon, things got out of hand. So the bankers had Kennedy shot, and they had to fake the moon landings. Notice that they took place on the same day as Chappaquiddick... coincidence or conspiracy? You decide!
That's the only reason they would do it, national pride. They turn off the damned electricity at 11 pm, fer chrissakes!
And the problem with the national pride scenario is this: from what we know of Kim and Co., wouldn't a successful weapon launch carry FAR more "national pride" than a successfully orbiting radio beacon they wouldn't even be able to tune in to after 11 pm?! A slight exaggeration, sure. But only slight.
Your failure/refusal to grasp the metaphor is based on either reflexive intransigence or profound stupidity. I will allow time to answer that one, so by all means, keep posting.
KingMerv00
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Kim has some screwed up priorities. How about we work on food and indoor plumming first? You can't eat national pride.
Not necessarily an invasion, but I think even that is a better idea than to wait another decade until NK gets it's ICBM program all tidied up, built up, and ready for the unthinkable.
Of course, we could also just watch another episode of Laverne and Shirley and let our children or grandchildren deal with it.........................
I agree wholeheartedly, except that hasn't worked for the past 50 years.
I'd like the assassination option, too, but that didn't work with Fidel.
I guess I'll have to be satisfied with letting the next generation worry about it.
With the record of our intelligence community in mind, how are you going to introduce "bad coding"?
No argument here, but you must admit that's never stopped them before... especially when their exercises in national pride are so very effective at extorting aid from other nations who continue to appease this spolied brat.
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he would have lasted five minutes even the saddams closet leutenants were iching to put a bullett in his skull.
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The evidence suggests that Qusay would have been likely to solve that problem perminatly.
Yup. An actual attack is no longer a test.
I asked how poorly the system worked in tests. Your link clearly shows that in IFT, LEAP, THAAD, Upper Tier, and Homing Overlay tests, there were more successes than failures.
And, without a doubt, our ABM system beats the hell out of North Korea's.
KingMerv00
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To avoid countless deaths in the future, we should cause countless deaths now? You do realize that North Korea's military power is nothing to sneeze at, right?
Do you know of any weapon system yet created that hasn't been used in warfare?
We have also already seen warfare that left millions dead.
The illusion that the human species can stop all warfare is a recipe for appeasement, and appeasement equals procrastination. While the procrastination lingers, the enemy gets stronger.
Politically, it works in the short term. Overall, it's just passing the buck.
Like an individual's physical death, this too is an eventual, unavoidable reality.
Kinda, sorta:
To avoid countless deaths here in the future, we should cause countless deaths there now.
Ya' know, the old Patton adage; we don't try to die for our country. We try to make the other, poor SOB die for his country.
Sneezing wouldn't be my first weapon of choice. Neither would invasion.
I'd pull the same tactic as Israel did at Osiraq. We have all the tools necessary to do it with virtually no military risk. We have the best and unequaled aerial first strike capability on Earth with either stealth, manned aircraft or cruise missles with aerial/satellite targetting capability, or both. Simply destroy their nuclear infrastructure, then wait for them to rebuild it.
Then destroy it again.
Repeat as necessary.
No ground troops necessary. Let the people starve until they're ready to kill Kim themselves.
Political ramifications?
Handle that like Israel, too.
No. It's based on simple knowledge that it's a lot easier to build and launch a satellite than it is to manufacture a cell phone, as demonstrated that neither the United States nor the Soviet Union were capable of manufacturing cell phones at the time they launched their first satellites. Japan was launching rockets through NASDA in 1975 (and through ISAS in 1965). The ESA (actually, its predecessor the ESRO) was able to build satellites (for launch by US platforms) as early as 1968, and was using its home-build Ariane I platform to launch satellites by 1979.
The basic patents for cell phones were granted in 1973; commercially viable "manufacturing" didn't happen until the early 80s.
It's much easier to launch a primitive satellite than it is to build a cellphone.
Consider the computing power inside the average cellphone with the entire computing power built into the space shuttle, for instance.
On the other hand, a satellite can consist of some photocells, about 8 transistors, an antenna that deploys after a set period of time (long enough to get it up there), and that's it, it goes around and goes 'beep beep'. You could probably do it with ruggidized tubes, too, although you'd need a touch more power. If you do have any nuclear capability, you can use a cesium heat source to provide more power, too.
For guidance to get into an orbit, any orbit, old mechanical methods will suffice, you don't need modern computing.
There are amateur rocketers these days who are trying to get around to both the permissions and the technology to launch a small satellite these days. Their attempt would be a great deal cheaper and a whole lot more sophisticated than what a country with fuel, guns, and no technology would use, but the point is there...