North Korea to Launch ICBM

Jocko said:
Please, I do that every day and I'm no genius, nor am I particularly sane. Ask around, you'll see.
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Your henchmen are unlikely to kill you.


As a dictator you have to keep enough of the economy going to keep your top and higher middle level people happy. you have to be able to run the secret police. In Kim's case he is mosty useing the systems his father left behind.


Well, Kim was born under a rainbow crapped by a unicorn, remember. Or something like that.
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Kinda. NK propergander about Kim appears to be an eary version of the Chuck Noris facts list
 
Huntster said:
Kim is the perfect example to use to illustrate why taking Saddam out was a wise thing to do.

Imagine Uday leading Iraq...........
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So I take it you are advocating an invasion of NK on some flimsy pretext, the goal being to remove one person from power?

OK - but definitely after you!

I suspect it would be far easier to simply undermine Kim Il Jong's regime and hold on power through much more simple and inexpensive means. As we have seen from the photos referenced in a parallel thread, they are already living in an imaginary paradise.

For example, I suspect that any guidance systems on these proposed long-range ICBMs will be of the same quality and standard as the "home computers", i.e. pathetically bad. So a bit of "bad coding" introduced, and hey-ho! - they will never even fly. Crisis over.
 
Kim is the perfect example to use to illustrate why taking Saddam out was a wise thing to do.
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Yes, North Korea was developing nuclear missles, so the wisest thing to do was to attack Iraq. Gotcha.
 
Originally Posted by Huntster :
Kim is the perfect example to use to illustrate why taking Saddam out was a wise thing to do.

Imagine Uday leading Iraq...........


Qusay was next in line.
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Didn't we take out (e.g. kill them dead with a bomb!) Uday and Qusay before we got Saddam?
 
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The following report just came in:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000101&sid=a8khYk2NKAuY&refer=japan

June 21 (Bloomberg) -- China joined the U.S., Japan, South Korea and Australia in telling North Korea to refrain from testing a long-range missile, saying it may damage six-nation talks on ending North Korea's nuclear program.

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North Korea may be preparing to launch a satellite rather than testing a missile, South Korea's ruling party said yesterday, citing Unification Minister Lee Jong Seok. Uri party spokesman Woo Sang Ho said it was ``difficult to discern'' whether the launch vehicle is a missile or a satellite.
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Just because we keep attacking other countries on the basis that they are threats to us doesn't make us the paranoid warmongering megalomaniacs with delusions of grandeur that others accuse us of being.

And it's only smart to start active hostilities with a country a) hates us already, b) is ruled by a madman, and c) has nukes...especially when they are claiming they can reach us with those nukes now. Why, if we didn't attack, we'd have to face the horrible uncertainty that they might not start a nuclear war. Let's remove that uncertainty now! It's the brainy thing to do. Especially while our military is idle at the moment.
 
Why bother shooting it down? Wouldn't a better choice be to simply jam the telemetry from the rocket and prevent North Korea from learning anything from the test? I don't know how feasible it would be, but if it was possible it would at least be a less overtly hostile response.
 
Huntster said:
And how poorly did U.S. ABM systems work in tests?
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Just about all of the tests involving missile defense have permitted the defenders to know:
where the projectile will be launched,
when the projectile will be launched,
where the projectile is aimed,
and the projectile has been equipped with a transponder to make it easier to track and distinguish from countermeasures.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_security/missile_defense/chronology-of-missile-defense-tests.html

In the event of an actual attack, I seriously doubt that the offenders will be quite as accommodating.
 
WildCat said:
Unless you're claiming that we'd have to put a few hundred thousand troops in N. Korea to "pay much attention" this doesn't make any sense.
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I agree that the US can do very little to control what NK does. I do think that the world media has been much more focused on events in Iraq since the US invaded. The US Military and Media is also focused on Iraq. Nk is probably thankful that all eyes have been there and not on them while they work on their weapons program. Would it have made any difference? Probably not. But it is better to work quietly, then to have much of the world's intelligence resources and media outlets constantly screaming about your progress on weapons. I watch the news, and Iraq is featured every day. Nk has been mentioned far less, and in my opinion, that's the way NK likes it. I also think that NK appreciates our continued spending of our resources on Iraq. I'm sure they would like us to stay there a long long time.
 
SteveGrenard said:
The following report just came in:

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Again, lose the font. It's pretentious. Serifs don't add weight to your argument.

Then, explain how a country that can't successfully manufacture a cell phone could produce a satellite, and what kind of use that satellite may be intended for... except as a convenient excuse to placate the weak-minded who will latch onto any tenuous evidence that maybe Kim ain't such a bad guy after all.
 
Jocko said:
Then, explain how a country that can't successfully manufacture a cell phone could produce a satellite, ...
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Hmmm.... So, I guess Sputnik never happened? Just a conspiracy of cartographers?
 
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