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Noah's Ark found?

Oh dear, that's right. Wasn't thinking v3.5, was thinking *cough* original three books back in nineteen seventy something or other *cough*!)

DR

Wow; I just jumped to conclusion, I guess.
I wonder if there is a 4th Ed. ritual for that yet... (I know it's iconoclastic, but the current one is my favourite edition of the game so far).
 
Wow; I just jumped to conclusion, I guess.
I wonder if there is a 4th Ed. ritual for that yet... (I know it's iconoclastic, but the current one is my favourite edition of the game so far).
We're talking about Noah's Ark, here. You're drifting off into the wrong fantasy rulebook.
 
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Brace yourself...
I have bad news!
The female unicorn died on the boat.
Made for a change from the usual ship's food, but...

Oh, crap, so that's where Noah's brand new boots came from: dead baby dragons.

Noah, you SONOFABISCUIT! :mad:

DR
 
No Darth I’m an anti moron bigot.
Mohamed Ahta 911 hijacker believed in the flood as do KKK members.
If that makes me worse than Hitler, then I wear it proud.
 
I think you would find that if you put Complexity on ignore, the level of hostility you perceive would drop by an order of magnitude.

It's not that I'm saying there is no hostility. I've experienced it myself. I'm occasionally known around here as a local religious apologist. I'm not religious, but I think religion is not a bad thing, and certainly not responsible for all the world's evil. Expressing that opinion draws the ire of some, and some of it gets rather nasty. During that interaction, it can seem as if JREF is filled with a horde of nasty, vicious people. In reality, what is happening is that the personal attacks of a few are masking the intelligent conversation of the many.


Practice what you preach.

You are a purveyor of woo, an enabler of evil, and an apologist for superstition all of the time.
 
No one here, including me, wants me to quote the dozens of posts of pure vitriol toward me.

It does no good and serves no purpose.

If you so want to know, may I suggest you search.

Otherwise, drop it.


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I read that the Noah's Ark story came from an older religious story that predated the bible. The adventures "Gaglidish" or something like that. There are lots of similar elements, I remember

That coupled with the stories that must have been passed down by word of mouth when the Red Sea flooded and you get a story that worked its way into the bible.

Actually, there are a number of possible water masses that were once valleys (the whole Mediterranean Sea, is one) that must have seem like the end of the world when they were created.

You Fundies cannot understand that it is just a story.

Fundies like "Complexity". You are such a Fundie, man.
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For what, simply being a vitriolic, anti-Christian bigot? The JREF forum management has already established that bigotry isn't a bannable offense. You'll note that most of the posters who engage productively on these forums don't resort to the pseudo-psychiatric tripe that you spit at Radrook.


You know, I could have sworn that you were critical of me within the last day for behavior that you are indulging in now.

The difference, of course, is that I'm right and you're wrong.

Consider your opinions on proper forum behavior invalidated.

Hypocrite.
 
Friends said that it made them sad and that they "wanted to believe"

I found it odd that "want" influences "belief".

Why did you find that odd? If evidence has little or no bearing on belief, what else is left to create or influence beliefs?
 
Practice what you preach.

You are a purveyor of woo, an enabler of evil, and an apologist for superstition all of the time.

Well, whatever. You're entitled to your opinions.

The problem is that your opinions are, despite your adopted moniker, rather simple. Religion sucks. Religious people suck. If you are religious, you suck. If you aren't religious, but don't attack the people who are, you suck.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but it doesn't really contribute to understanding.

So, along comes a story about the Ark, and some people point out that there is a long history of fraud, and that an Ark wouldn't be seaworthy, and the volume of rain would sink any boat, and all sorts of issues related to why we ought to be skeptical about any suggestion that someone has found a boat on a mountaintop.

Meanwhile, you say it's stupid.

In this particular case, I happen to agree that it's stupid, but there's more to it than that. Some people actually believe this stuff, or think there's a reason to, and many of us are trying to find some sort of angle that might break through that belief to make people reconsider their faith in such superstitious nonsense as worldwide deluges. That's hard to do when some of the participants in the conversation simply want to trumpet their own opinion that everyone who disagrees with them are idiots, or worse.

Meanwhile, I was pointing out to 154 that, although he felt a bit attacked, most of the attacks were coming from a single source. If he ignored that source, his ideas would still be under assault, but I think he would at least have a different perspective on the prevailing attitude on these forums.
 
one is Gilgamesh
one is Genesis
which is which ?
When a seventh day arrived
I sent forth a dove and released it.
The dove went off, but came back to me;
no perch was visible so it circled back to me.
I sent forth a raven and released it.
The raven went off, and saw the waters slither back.
It eats, it scratches, it bobs, but does not circle back to me.

And he sent forth a dove from him,
to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground.
But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him to the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth
And he sent forth a raven, and it went forth to and fro,
until the waters were dried up from off the earth
:p
 

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